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Old 11-21-2012, 03:59 PM   #71 (permalink)
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If you can pick one side which is absolutely in the right on this issue, then you don't understand it.

And that video above is one of the most biased videos I have ever seen.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:57 AM   #72 (permalink)
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If you can pick one side which is absolutely in the right on this issue, then you don't understand it.

And that video above is one of the most biased videos I have ever seen.
It's not exactly biased when there are two sides going at it...

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*well you did this and did that*
*well we were trying to defend ourselves*
*well you started it*
*no you did*
*those 400 rockets I'm randomly putting in from ages ago*
*wtf are you talking about?*
*well that's why we're still bombing you and told them to evacuate centres*
*yes evacuate nowhere 120 were killed*
*well that's because you don't care about your own*
*oh ok so you might as well kill them*
*terrorism terrorism terrorism*
*yes you're continually occupying and colonising our country*
*yes but your president gave us 99.1% of it*
*... Did you seriously just say that?*

That video is what I was trying to point out mostly. But man, that was hilarious.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:47 PM   #73 (permalink)
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It's not exactly biased when there are two sides going at it...



*well you did this and did that*
*well we were trying to defend ourselves*
*well you started it*
*no you did*
*those 400 rockets I'm randomly putting in from ages ago*
*wtf are you talking about?*
*well that's why we're still bombing you and told them to evacuate centres*
*yes evacuate nowhere 120 were killed*
*well that's because you don't care about your own*
*oh ok so you might as well kill them*
*terrorism terrorism terrorism*
*yes you're continually occupying and colonising our country*
*yes but your president gave us 99.1% of it*
*... Did you seriously just say that?*

That video is what I was trying to point out mostly. But man, that was hilarious.
xD haha
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Old 11-23-2012, 02:39 PM   #74 (permalink)
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The video is kind of conflicting in the sense that almost all media outlets I've read stated that in the lead up to the Israeli airstrikes, there had been at least 500 rockets fired by Hamas to begin with. This doesn't justify the killing of civilians and I'm glad that another occupation of the Gaza strip has been averted for the time being.

I don't know why I say this but I can never take Hamas seriously. It may be because as mentioned before in this thread, one of their official doctrines for a very long time had been the protocols of the elders of zion. I view antisemitism as a disease and whilst there are varying degrees of which it exists, the real and extreme ones almost always invariably turns out to be some sort of a "I want to get rid of a group of human beings". Traditionally, the conflicts have always been viewed as "Israel vs the Arabs". For this reason, even with the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, I don't think Israel will ever have peace and security of any lasting impact. Israel is of course part of the problem and not simply at the receiving end.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:57 PM   #75 (permalink)
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It's not exactly biased when there are two sides going at it...
It is very biased if you consider:
1. The title "pillar of HYPOCRISY" right off the bat.
2. The interviewer is biased.
3. Two of the three interviewees are pro Palestine.
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:54 PM   #76 (permalink)
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It is very biased if you consider:
1. The title "pillar of HYPOCRISY" right off the bat.
2. The interviewer is biased.
3. Two of the three interviewees are pro Palestine.
What does that have to do with the actual points being made? It's a discussion about the current events of bombing. "Pillar of Hypocrisy" is just the questionable subject.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:25 AM   #77 (permalink)
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If you can pick one side which is absolutely in the right on this issue, then you don't understand it.

And that video above is one of the most biased videos I have ever seen.
It's no different to any other video, the underdog often gets the sympathy vote in these things.

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Traditionally, the conflicts have always been viewed as "Israel vs the Arabs". For this reason, even with the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, I don't think Israel will ever have peace and security of any lasting impact. Israel is of course part of the problem and not simply at the receiving end.
What's the solution? Dismantling the state of Isreal and allowing their people to emigrate to countries where they have family (but not all have family abroad) that would of course bring stability to the area but of course is almost impossible to do. Their only option is to continue securing their own state from agressive neighbours which they've been doing for decades now and as they say, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs!

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It is very biased if you consider:
1. The title "pillar of HYPOCRISY" right off the bat.
2. The interviewer is biased.
3. Two of the three interviewees are pro Palestine.
The interviewer is following instructions (from the TV channel) and allowing the underdog (the Palestinians) in this case to give a stronger opinion than that of the Isrealis.

The Palestinian interviewee is backed by a British film-maker who is extremely biased anyway. The Jewish interviewee was not a good choice, as he's pretty hopeless at getting his point across cohesively.

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What does that have to do with the actual points being made? It's a discussion about the current events of bombing. "Pillar of Hypocrisy" is just the questionable subject.
The best point of the whole interview that was only briefly touched upon, is that Hamas had placed their military assets in residential locations, so near where children are based. Hamas knew what they were doing here and knew would lead to two distinct possibilties 1) Placing these military installations in a residential attack to avoid attack or 2) Placing these military installations in a residential attack to encourage an attack and then when civilian casualties mounted up, they automatically would grab sympathy. Hamas don't give a shit about civilian casualties, they're just means to an end.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:09 AM   #78 (permalink)
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What does that have to do with the actual points being made? It's a discussion about the current events of bombing. "Pillar of Hypocrisy" is just the questionable subject.
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The interviewer is following instructions (from the TV channel) and allowing the underdog (the Palestinians) in this case to give a stronger opinion than that of the Isrealis.

The Palestinian interviewee is backed by a British film-maker who is extremely biased anyway. The Jewish interviewee was not a good choice, as he's pretty hopeless at getting his point across cohesively.
They have a word for that: bias.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:08 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Their only option is to continue securing their own state from agressive neighbours which they've been doing for decades now and as they say, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs!
Israel is going to have one hell of an omelette once they've dealt with all their "aggressive" neighbors
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:16 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Israel is going to have one hell of an omelette once they've dealt with all their "aggressive" neighbors
Well, all their neighbours will definitely end up "scrambled".

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