Children killed in Connecticut school shooting (likely 27 dead,including 18 children)
 

Reports coming in that 27 people have been killed, including 18 children...

Children killed in Connecticut school shooting | World | News | Toronto Sun

What the ****? Last I heard there were 2 dead....

Wow it's true I can't believe this... there has no doubt been a serious ramp-up in gun rampages these last couple years.






Jesus Christ in an elementary school....

Could be false reporting but a lot are saying 27. Such a tragedy either way though.

this is about as fucked up as it gets really

I cannot even begin to imagine what the families of the deceased are going through right now, my heart goes out to them. My gut tells me this is family related

I don't care how fucked up your own life is there's no excuse for this.

It's reported that there may be multiple people involved in this, and one person is in custody.

Forget justice, turn this guy over to the lynch mob

Guns. ****ing guns.

If there is more than one person involved then I hope they catch whoever else was responsible and lock them up in a cell with pictures of the faces of all the kids they killed on the walls for the rest of their lives.

If you can look a 10 year old in the face and shoot them dead, that kind of punishment will serve no purpose.

These people have no conscience. The only pain they'll probably ever know is physical.

Wow...

Why?

This has to be the worst shooting in America so far. Why attack an elementary school?

This is so sad. I can't believe it! I feel so bad for all the families affected and the community at large.

Absolutely terrible.

My detective instincts are telling me this is a mentally unstable family dispute. Mom took the kids away from dad, dad is constantly barraged with images of what the happy family is suppose to look like at this time of year, dad finally snaps and decides if he can't have a happy Christmas then nobody can.

The news just said the guy who did it was 20 years old.

Who the **** would do something like this?

**** even trying to passively think about this makes me sick to my stomach. ****ing children. CHILDREN.

I wonder how many more of these shooting it will take before gun proponents and lobbyists stop acting like ****ing morons and realize the general public should not be allowed to have guns.

I swear if I see even one status or comment about how this is why we need less strict gun laws, I'm gonna tear that person a new ass hole.

This story is not just unfathomable, its scary. Where can people feel safe anymore and or have piece of mind that their loved ones are ok where they are? The dude that did this wont last a year in prison before someone takes him out I bet.

but if the kids had guns to defend themselves with this wouldnt have happened

Precisely...

As sarcastic as this is, I'm expecting comments like this. Or maybe comments about how we should arm teachers now.

I don't buy it. I've owned guns since I was 18 years of age. You can't blame the gun, but you can certainly blame the maniacs who decided to do this. You can't blame a car when somebody decides to drink and drive and takes anothers life.

There was an incident in Cali years ago where a guy decided to drive his car into an elementary school playground and killed 12 children at an Orange County Elementary School.

Gun Laws would only deter normal citizens like myself. Do you really think a criminal is gonna give up his gun, that would just leave Police Officers and Criminals packing a weapon.

I agree, but maybe we should start a separate thread on the subject.

Oh and they're reporting 29 now, including 22 children

Pretty horrible.

Car's still serve a function other than killing stuff though. You're not going to ban car's when people use them improperly, but i mean getting rid of guns it's like who cares

This is where gun proponents need a reality check. Ok...YOU have used guns since you were 18. What about the mentally disturbed guy down the street? Just because you are stable and can handle the responsibility of gun ownership doesn't mean the majority of people are. That fact alone is enough to keep them out of people's hands altogether.

Why? It's completely relevant to this.

I hate to get into this... but cars and guns are kind of different, cars serve an extremely important purpose other than just inflicting harm. It's got to be about practicality, obviously we can't ban every possible harmful object.

Well thats just it, you aren't gonna get rid of guns. Criminals will still possess guns they bought illegally. Guys like me that go to Turners and Gun shops to buy guns and use them recreationally aren't gonna use them on people and we register our guns. Guys like this would still possess guns, because you aren't gonna go into someones house and audit their gun collection.

It's usually seen as disrespectful to turn a tragic event into a political agenda so soon after it happens. I just figured we could keep a respectful thread here and start a thread on the specific subject of gun control.

At the very least, we will know anyone with a gun should be arrested.

You can't tell me that strict gun laws won't at least diminish the rate of gun related crimes a bit.

Well, if others feel the same then I would be happy to.

I think discussing the implications of how and why this happened while we all respect that this was a horribly tragic event is still ok, though.

I think you've proven my point. Why should a rational person such as myself be told I can't own a gun. The unstable guy mentally is gonna find another way to do harm to people, and people who want to own a gun illegally will do so.

Well of course sheer mathematics would dictate that less guns or no guns equal less gun related crime. So does that mean we move onto knives next and any appliances that can cause harm because the lack of a gun created a demand in knives?

It's your call, just my .02


this is the sick son of a bitch's facebook apparently http://www.facebook.com/rlanza?ref=ts&fref=ts

This is American arrogance at its finest. What makes you think anyone deserves to have a gun? Because it's in the constitution? This is a device designed to kill people. If we are talking personal protection, there are plenty of effective non lethal alternatives these days.

I really apologize if this comes off like I'm attacking you...I'm not calling you arrogant, just the idea itself. I just really can't help feeling empathy for all these people anytime something like this happens...it really pisses me off just because of how pointless it all is.

I'm through with discussing the sure to come gun law propaganda and it certainly is tragic and harrowing to know that people can do this to one another.

A lot of these guys are loner shut-ins, what makes you so sure it'll be so easy for them to get their hands on guns if they aren't available to the public?

Just because you can feign mental stability up until ownership doesn't mean ****e. The dude who killed the people at batman premiere seemed normal, you can watch video's of him lecturing his classmates. It's easier to just eliminate guns then try to judge mental health on an individual basis.

Mental Unstable guy might find a way to harm people, but at least make him work for it. Chances are he won't be able to stab two dozen people before being stopped.

Its hard to speculate on preventative measures America could take to try an eradicate tragedies like this. I don't think there really are any and that's the sad part. As long as there are deranged people like this in the world these kind of senseless acts will continue to transpire. I'm sure there is more to this story than what's leaked out, and at what point do people not raise their awareness that the potential for a devastating occurrence like this is likely? Humanity is unpredictable and that makes this world a scary place for those of us who worry about the well being of the ones we love the most.