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3. Obliviousness to the differences in Syrian society; e.g., pretending there are no major differences between Alawites, Christians, & Sunni. Seems like some lazybones should look at the demographic compostion of the government and army.
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You've completely got the wrong end of the stick here, as the above actually supports the long term weakness of the Assad regime rather than support it. Your above post actually supports the fact, that the army are more likely to turn against the Assad regime than support it, given the fact that the Alawites only really command the leadership, but it's the Sunnis that make up the majority of the army. Assad of course is an Alawite and most of those forces that have defected are Sunnis and will gradually defect even more.
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2. The notion that this is was some sort of spontaneous, internal uprising. The reality is this is part of a global conflict, played out by animated regional actors (primarily Iran & Saudi Arabia and their associated proxies) at the discretion of their associated global hegemonys.
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You've completely got this wrong, there was nothing spontaneous about the Syrian uprising at all and nobody to my knowledge on here has said it was spontaneous either. The uprisng was just part of the "Arab Spring" which had already swept most of the Arab world and Syria was just another country to fall victim to these planned protests, so it was acyuallt very organized.
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1. That violence delegitimizes a Government and/or that Democracy is somehow more legitimate than other forms of Governance.
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First part of point one is just you trying to be controversial yet again and we all know that you believe in the survival of the fittest lark. Second point I've actually addressed and is actually the only good point you've raised here. It basically raises the question on how suitable democracy is for non-European or non-North American cultures etc. I actually stated in an earlier post, that I personally feel that the democratic process is not always suitable for a lot of nations around the world, but it's also not to be shunned either.
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It's not only that. The UN can't do anything without Russia agreeing, and they're still hands in pockets mumbling "Ahh, he not such a bad guy, y'know? We had Stalin! Now THERE was a dictator!" and of course at the same time smuggling arms to his forces. So the UN does nothing cos they can't. And then there's the Arab League. Can't piss them off either. Basically it's really a case of "**** it if you want to kill yourselves do, see if we care" which is terrible but what pisses me off are these news stories about the refugees. I have sympathy for them, but why show these things if there's nothing they can/will do about the situation? It's like "look how bad it is, but we can't make it any better".
US needs to strongarm Russia and get them to play ball. This has gone on too long, too many people have died and too many other people --- people ostensibly in power --- are just standing on the sidelines, wringing their hands and saying "we can't do anything cos the Russkies have the ball and won't let anyone play." Grow a set, UN, FFS!
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Which is why I'm kind of resigned to the fact the the Syrians will have to sort their problems out internally.
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