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Old 04-15-2013, 06:23 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:26 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone is suggesting there's a link to past troubles in Northern Ireland, Vanilla. Certainly not in the sense of some kind of reprisal attack.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:34 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I've been to Boston, it's a lovely city the people were lovely and they don't deserve to have a tragedy like this happen to them. Just like the people who were shopping in the Arndale centre that day didn't either.
That's exactly what bothers me how innocent ppl pay the consequences for stuff they're not involved with

i think of all the ppl that die over someone else's cause and at the end they just become another statistic in the evening news

Nothing gets accomplished, nothing gets better, it all turns into mindless violence and fighting for peace.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:35 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I'm not pinning anything on anybody apart from those that donated money. I just wonder now that innocents have been killed on their own doorstep if they feel any conscience for what they did.

I've been to Boston, it's a lovely city the people were lovely and they don't deserve to have a tragedy like this happen to them. Just like the people who were shopping in the Arndale centre that day didn't either.
Well yes, people were incredibly naive in funding a cause they didn't understand, some were duped by irish poetic romanticism and all that ****e, but some of them knew very well what was going on over there, they had first hand experience of discrimination(gerrymandering for example, or not being able to get a job, or their house being burnt down because they were Catholic) which is why they left in the first place. I hate the IRA for what they did to innocent British people, as did my great grandfather(and old IRA member of the War of Independance and Civil War), what happened in Birmingham was unforgiveable, but they weren't all terrorist ****s, some had relatives and friends shot down for no reason by UDA and British soldiers, some burnt out of their own houses, and joined out of anger. But I did not like the way you worded that Urban, even though I know you didn't really mean anything by it. I feel absolutely sick to the stomach that this bombing happened, the more I hear about it. Hope they catch the ****ing ****s who did this.


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That's exactly what bothers me how innocent ppl pay the consequences for stuff they're not involved with

i think of all the ppl that die over someone else's cause and at the end they just become another statistic in the evening news

Nothing gets accomplished, nothing gets better, it all turns into mindless violence and fighting for peace.



We still do not know what "cause" this is related to. If it is even related to a "cause" at all. I don't think these people are statistics either, the people dying in Syria are, because there are so much more of them dying.

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Old 04-15-2013, 06:42 PM   #55 (permalink)
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But I did not like the way you worded that Urban, even though I know you didn't really mean anything by it. I feel absolutely sick to the stomach that this bombing happened, the more I hear about it. Hope they catch the ****ing ****s who did this.
I can accept that. I apologise if I worded it in a way you thought I was getting back at the Irish, I was just giving my honest initial thoughts that I had when I heard about it. Maybe my perspectives are slightly skewed because I was in London during the 1993 Bishopsgate bombing, only a mile away in fact. The first time I ever travelled anywhere on my own.

and I couldn't agree more with your last point.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:42 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm not pinning anything on anybody apart from those that donated money. I just wonder now that innocents have been killed on their own doorstep if they feel any conscience for what they did.

I've been to Boston, it's a lovely city the people were lovely and they don't deserve to have a tragedy like this happen to them. Just like the people who were shopping in the Arndale centre that day didn't either.
What actually happened here?

I'm only 23, I remember a lot of stuff going on in the 90's but too young to really understand everything. I know they bombed Manchester but always thought nobody was killed (which is a miracle really.) And obviously I know what they did to Birmingham.
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I can accept that. I apologise if I worded it in a way you thought I was getting back at the Irish, I was just giving my honest initial thoughts that I had when I heard about it.

and I couldn't agree more with your last point.
Yes I know Urban, don't worry, you're the most honest person on this forum. That is mostly a good thing.

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What actually happened here?

I'm only 23, I remember a lot of stuff going on in the 90's but too young to really understand everything. I know they bombed Manchester but always thought nobody was killed (which is a miracle really.) And obviously I know what they did to Birmingham.



I don't know how many bombs actually went off, but I remember hearing about some of it and my parents being horrified. I am the same age as you as well. The weird part is apparently the IRA gave warnings before each bombing. I don't fully understand the situation, but it was ****ed up. It was a ****ty time to be Irish in England as well, some of my mates grew up in England when it was happening and had to leave.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:50 PM   #58 (permalink)
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And notice that there's bombings in Syria everyday and no one blinks an eye lid.
Let's take stock of a few things:

-Syria has been in the American media, daily, for months.
-Syria is in a civil war
-The purpose of war is to kill
-Therefor, unless a bombing or murder of civilians is (somehow) relevant to the overall progression of the general conflict, it's not going to get much major media coverage.

-America has several times the population of Syria
-America has several times the GDP of Syria
-Bombings of civilians in America are an anomaly
-America is home to many, many globally significant media outlets

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Or were you referring to the reaction on this board? If that's the case, it might have something to do with the ratio of Syrians to Americans on it. Just a wild guess.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:00 PM   #59 (permalink)
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We still do not know what "cause" this is related to. If it is even related to a "cause" at all. I don't think these people are statistics either, the people dying in Syria are, because there are so much more of them dying.
Yea, i know we still don't know the motive behind this
i meant what i said as an assumption because this kinda attacks are often the work of extremist groups with either a political or religious agenda..

Ofc, this could also be the work of just one man who's bat sh*t crazy
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Homegrown terrorism is probably more likely, yes.
That's what I believe. Didn't the Oklahoma City bombing occur on or about this day in April in the '95?
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