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butthead aka 216 03-03-2014 08:49 PM

i support abortion and i think the best case for abortion is the fact that it can and will be done regardless if its legal so makin it legal will let ppl do it safely and also save several coat hangers

DoesntReallyMatter 03-03-2014 10:59 PM

I think mandatory abortion or sterilization has to be implemented.

Sooner or later. Or, we're all doomed.
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lol, but seriously. 2 kids for every coupling.

Good luck with that.

ladyislingering 03-03-2014 11:30 PM

I held off posting in this thread for a long time but my mind's in the right place so I may as well.

I'm appalled to think that some people (especially men, or any person without the necessary equipment, or without a lifetime's worth of the media oversexualizing their body parts, telling them they're worth nothing more than to be a breeding cow, telling them to be ashamed of the things their body does (i.e.; menstruation)) think it's acceptable to put laws in place that dictate what a woman can and cannot do with her body.

Unplanned pregnancies are accidents that happen. Not everyone wants children; those who don't want them will take every necessary precaution to prevent pregnancy. But sometimes, unfortunate things happen, and abortion should always be an option. Sometimes women are sexually assaulted. It's not her fault. It is never her fault. Why should she have to be forced to carry a child to full term, that will only remind her of that traumatic experience, for the rest of her life? And if a woman is pregnant, because she wanted a child, but the birth of this child could take her life (and take a mother away from a child), she should have that right (though it may be emotionally difficult for her) to terminate that pregnancy.

Children are not an accessory. They're not a necessity. They're not a commodity. Women are more than their reproductive organs. Women have value beyond those organs. People don't seem to understand this. People don't seem to be aware of the tragic rates of child abuse (sometimes resulting in murder), child neglect/abandonment, overpopulation of both the human race and foster homes/orphanages. Children didn't choose to come into a world where they couldn't be taken care of. But in many places, women don't have a choice to spare a child from a lifetime of pain. The government is so fast to protect an indistinguishable cluster of tissues and cells, but they don't care what happens to it after it's out of the womb. They don't care what happens to that woman after that child is born. They don't care if she dies, or commits suicide because she was either too sick or unprepared for childbirth. Just as long as that thing comes out of there.

The way I see it, a person who is pro-life is anti-woman. A person who says that a woman has no right to choose what happens to her own body is a person who does not respect women.

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1422770)
i support abortion and i think the best case for abortion is the fact that it can and will be done regardless if its legal so makin it legal will let ppl do it safely and also save several coat hangers

Too many women are dying from "backalley abortions". Not like the government cares about us, but it's tragic. No woman should have to die, or bleed to death just because she wants to have control over her own body.

If mandatory sterilization for men became a thing, you'd bet your ass men would be in an uproar.

DoesntReallyMatter 03-04-2014 12:48 AM

I was one that wished I could be sterilized, before the seed spread. 'Last of the family line.'
Both parents mental / chemical problems, all FOUR grandparents, same...

So, there goes that theory. I was jobless, moneyless, homeless. So...


That was a while back, now. Too late now.
You ****ers are stuck with my prodigy. Muhuhahhahaha.
And, I'm teaching them to think for themselves! AAhahaha!
Little bombthrowers.



*s*

BTW: We own a home now and are in your suburbs.

ladyislingering 03-04-2014 12:57 AM

I'm dying waiting for the day when it'll be easy for me to be sterilized. I've wanted the operation since I was just a little girl. But so few doctors will do it, because, well, they think women are fickle and unable to think for themselves, and furthermore they just see us as livestock, meant to breed more to feed the machine.

But the very moment that opportunity opens, I'll be damn sure that all this useless junk is taken out/tied up.

DoesntReallyMatter 03-04-2014 01:01 AM

Shouldn't it be free?

That's what I always thought.
Do a psychiatric evaluation, then, do us all a favor.

Of course, now I have kids, things change.

And I have to protect, prepare them for this ****world we live in. In the most rainbow and unicorn way I possibly can.
I mean, believe it or not, I love the little beasts. They surprise me with stuff every day. Really the only reason I'm still here.

P.S. I don't tell them that.

ladyislingering 03-04-2014 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DoesntReallyMatter (Post 1422816)
Do a psychiatric evaluation, then, do us alla favor.

I couldn't possibly care less about society at large, in that respect; I'll do it to benefit myself with peace of mind.

Don't let your kids grow up to be self-righteous douchenuggets, please.

DoesntReallyMatter 03-04-2014 01:36 AM

I'm trying my best.


But, when people say that, "I tried my best!"
It's always a cop out. You could've tried harder.

All I have to say is, if you can't take care of yourself, don't have kids.
BUT, kids sometimes happen. 'Miracle children'...a euphemism.

Poor little buggers, I....welll, you don't know the whole backstory.
But, their mother actually takes very good care of them, and, when I'm mentally balanced. Had a good night's rest, I come out and read to them, hug them,. I mean, I'm a good dad. I would gladly lay down my life for them. But I have these moments, when I just lock the door and stay away because I'll start babbling about my 'glory days' and all these wild adventures I used to have. They don't need to hear all that.


I used to wake up and my dad would be passed out hand reaching to lock the front door, piss all over the floor.
Been locked out of my own house at 6 years old, etc. Laid crying in the street hoping a car would run overme.
Stitches. Etc.

So, hopefully, every generation gets better.
I was stone cold sober for 3 years, then 1 year, before that, etc.
Now....just a bad jag.

Blah blah, try and make an intoxicated person stop talking, right?

lol



The thread was about....?

KeineLust 03-15-2014 08:14 PM

I said originally pro life, but I guess I really dont care either way.

Carpe Mortem 03-22-2014 12:44 AM

I think it's pretty ****ed up to be pro-life. As in... I legitimately think it makes you a bad person.

My logic, which most people will probably disagree with and not understand, even those who are pro-choice, is that if something can't live outside of a woman's body, it is not a human being, and therefore, killing it is just like killing an unwanted animal. That's right, fetuses are irrelevant things that barely count as creatures. They're just some half-formed genetic material.

Stop trying to control other people's bodies, you *******s. Let them be rid of parasites they don't want, and maybe think about your misguided views a bit more carefully next time you're eating chicken eggs.


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