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Man, I never really noticed that about myself but thanks for calling me out on it. I'm an aggressive drunk sometimes but I stand by what I said last night 100%. And frankly, I don't care if I'm an ******* to someone if they're being a bigot. I'm not gonna adjust my values and behavior while tip toeing around someone's feelings just to keep the peace. If someone's being ****ty I'm gonna call in out on it. I consider it a courtesy and appreciate the same treatment.

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Also, I don't really care where someone's from. Someone born of a bigoted family doesn't get to get away with bigotry just because their pops dropped the N word like its no big deal.


Not making any accusations here.

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YorkeDaddy

Now this is just as ridiculous to me as what you seem to think of other people. Nothing is more impressionable than a child. If you, as a child, are exposed every day to what your parents believe, what else are you supposed to believe unless you have a high enough IQ to think for yourself critically on these issues, which most people don't have. Most of what people believe is a regurgitation of their family's beliefs, and that's no one's fault. This is developmental psychology, my dad runs a foster care company that houses children that are more ****ed up than you will ever understand, but it's impossible to blame them or think less of them because every last one of them were exposed to unthinkable situations in their everyday life. It's pretty much the same thing.

Obviously this does not apply universally, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt sometimes when they say ignorant things about issues like this is all I'm saying.

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John Wilkes Booth

this is a really strange question. if he thinks innocent humans might be dying then why wouldn't he question it?

The Batlord

The way I see it, no matter how gray the issue may be ethically, when dealing with abortion in a legal sense it becomes a binary, black and white, two answer issue: legal or illegal. So at that point you have to boil it down to the basic point. And that point is, is preserving the life of the fetus more valuable than preserving the integrity of the woman's right to her body? Obviously the answer depends on where the line is drawn as to when a fetus "all of a sudden" becomes a child with all the protections of a human being, but if it doesn't qualify then the woman's right takes precedence. Period. An cap on this would only confuse the issue.

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This is a pretty fair stance, I'd say. The reason I've thought of there being a cap is because it's sort of a compromise - but I see the issues in it.

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I've made that exact same point here before- people are often a product of their upbringing. I'm not saying they should be thought less of, I'm saying they should be called out on their **** regardless. And I'm not sure why you're saying there are people more ****ed up than I could ever understand. It's a little insulting really, what do you really know about me and the people in my life in the real world?

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Frownland

He said it doesn't excuse it, not that it doesn't happen

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YorkeDaddy

Because the children I was referring to are unlike anything you'll ever see in the real world because they can't function in the real world, that's why they're in a high security foster home. We're talking about nine year old kids that raped their sisters and stuff, man. They're so troubled and abused that they will probably never be able to live anything close to a normal life in the "real world".

It's an extreme example, but it's extremely tragic and scarring to interact with these kids and to read/hear their stories, so when I see one of them acting out of control I just can't blame them, nor can I blame someone that lives in a heavily pro-life household for feeling strongly about that stance.

I'm saying that it does indeed excuse it to an extent.

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YorkeDaddy

There's also a difference between calling people out on their **** and being rude to them for thinking differently

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