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Old 08-29-2013, 08:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Given that it looks like there'll be another conflict on the horizon, I was wondering if you thought military action was warranted against the Al-Assad administration.

I'd just like to hear opinions, so I'll leave it at that. God willing, this will be civilized.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't like that the west is so eager to jump in without demonstrating that Assad's government was actually responsible for the attack.

If he was, then I'm not sure. I guess you have to worry about the precedent of allowing dictators to use chemical attacks on their people, but honestly the thought of another mid-east intervention is hardly appealing. I'd probably prefer we stay out of it either way. Not that that's going to happen.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't like that the west is so eager to jump in without demonstrating that Assad's government was actually responsible for the attack.

If he was, then I'm not sure. I guess you have to worry about the precedent of allowing dictators to use chemical attacks on their people, but honestly the thought of another mid-east intervention is hardly appealing. I'd probably prefer we stay out of it either way. Not that that's going to happen.
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Old 08-29-2013, 09:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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can someone tldr the entire situation in syria lol

i feel confused what exactly is happenin


edit: just read a page long tldr somewhere else. i think i get it



sounds like the USA doesnt want to get involved. seems like a major problem would be who would run the country if assad is overthrown??

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Old 08-30-2013, 01:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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UK already backed out of getting involved

The US wants to get involved but with just a few limited strikes or something along those lines but are being hesitant about that as well.

In the end they are probably not going to do anything and just show Syria that it's okay to use chemical attacks against civilians because other countries are tired of always getting involved and then terrorist groups will roll with this and decide that chemical attacks are the way to go.

Expect to see more chemical attacks happening because everyone's whining about "oh the west shouldn't get involved"
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I'd support some kind of intervention if it involved trying to end the violence and find some kind of amicable conclusion but in the current state of sweeping in and bombing Assad into submission I'm against it. We seem to be far too keen to excuse the rebels of their own horrific war crimes because of the arbitrary line we draw on chemical weapons and I don't think supporting them unconditionally is going to make the situation any better afterwards.
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UK already backed out of getting involved

The US wants to get involved but with just a few limited strikes or something along those lines but are being hesitant about that as well.

In the end they are probably not going to do anything and just show Syria that it's okay to use chemical attacks against civilians because other countries are tired of always getting involved and then terrorist groups will roll with this and decide that chemical attacks are the way to go.

Expect to see more chemical attacks happening because everyone's whining about "oh the west shouldn't get involved"
Right, because as it stands terrorist groups are totally against chemical attacks and indiscriminate violence...

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I'd support some kind of intervention if it involved trying to end the violence and find some kind of amicable conclusion but in the current state of sweeping in and bombing Assad into submission I'm against it. We seem to be far too keen to excuse the rebels of their own horrific war crimes because of the arbitrary line we draw on chemical weapons and I don't think supporting them unconditionally is going to make the situation any better afterwards.
Not to mention that 'the rebels' are not a single cohesive group, and you can expect to the inevitable power struggle play out once the regime falls.
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Right, because as it stands terrorist groups are totally against chemical attacks and indiscriminate violence...
They aren't against it but now that they have seen a test run with results of course it will become more frequent.
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If there's one thing that gets my gonads in a twist, it's the American government talking about "intervening" in this or that conflict. It's not our war. There's no way of telling what the effects of our involvement might be. After Gadahfi was ousted in Lybia all of his mercenaris from Mali went back to their homeland with all of their weapons and caused havoc in the civil war that was already going on and now Al Qaeda is gaining more and more power there, and it was all because of the Arab Spring.

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And now we're talking about interfering in Syria without any respect for the law of unintended consequences? **** this bull****. And the idea that we're only going to do limited bombing is a crock. We were only going to do limited bombing in Kosovo. Clinton promised that there would be no troops on the ground. But, shockingly, the bombing didn't work and troops were deployed. Not to mention we didn't have Russia and China breathing down out backs in Kosovo. It's tragic what's happening in Syria but the truth is that it's Syria's problem, not ours. Sending our men and women to die in a foreign country for a conflict that has nothing to do with them just because people feel bad is short-sighted and idiotic.
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Sending our men and women to die in a foreign country for a conflict that has nothing to do with them just because people feel bad is short-sighted and idiotic.
It's short-sighted not to intervene. I'm sure intelligence is weighing the options of what the outcome would be with or without intervention. It's not just a decision that's being made hastily and without forethought regardless of what other events has happened in the past.
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