djchameleon

that wasn't really name calling. Just the statement/opinion. He challenged her opinion not her.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.

Key

Well then saying somebody's opinion/statement is stupid doesn't seem too constructive.

djchameleon

You are right it isn't constructive but I was just pointing out the fact that it isn't name calling though.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.

Key

Fair enough.

James

If you have to agree to read the thread what's the point? Why is this thing here?

Key

I never said you had to agree. I'm saying why are people getting upset over someone's opinion when it's obvious their opinion isn't going to change based on what the thread title is. Coming into a thread fully knowing what to expect and saying it's stupid is hardly constructive. But hey, people waste their time doing other things so I guess this isn't too different.

The Batlord

I think people are getting upset cause LIL started out with good points and logic and now she's coming off as defensive and disrespectful to people who actually want kids. They have a point too.

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Key

I guess I haven't read enough of the thread then to understand. Or I skipped over something.

Burning Down

Ok, srs question time now. When you're child free by choice and out on the dating scene, possibly looking for a long term relationship, would you bring up this aspect of yourself right off the bat, so as to weed out people who don't feel the same way? Or would you wait and feel out the relationship first? I know it wouldn't be fair to either person if one wants kids and the other doesn't.

The kid conversation is an important one to have in a relationship, and it's not exactly an easy conversation to start (been there done that). But is it more difficult for child free people to bring up the topic before knowing how the other person feels, out of fear that they might be judged?

James

I wouldn't say people are getting upset, just some people are a little dumbfounded by your arguments. Saying you'd rather have cancer than bring a child into this world just seems disrespectful to me - to both cancer sufferers and parents. It also goes against all of your girlfriend's other arguments - if she doesn't want to have children because it'll damage her beauty has she not seen what cancer does to people? I don't think she'd be able to devote all her time to you if she had cancer either. She wouldn't see any of the benefits of a child free life if she was dead. So it's a ridiculous thing to say and I stand by that.

And as for name-calling (which as DJ said, I didn't even do) how many times have kids been put under the umbrella heading of 'brat' in this thread? How many times has it been said that parenthood is 'dumb' or 'stupid'?

I wouldn't mind at all if you guys had made this thread to showcase your opinion and a discussion carried on, but you've made it as a vendetta against the people who do want children.