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Old 05-04-2014, 08:44 PM   #81 (permalink)
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You always repeat this phrase of yours- "loser lifestyles". WTF does that even mean?
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:17 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Can mean many things. Junkies, addicts, lazy scum of society, just shameful ppl in general n the types who leech off the government and dont strive to be better. Ppl who don't strive for glory
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:06 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I gotta agree that if you want to be a financial child your whole life and life off welfare when you're healthy enough to work, yeah, you're a loser.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:36 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Old 05-06-2014, 02:48 PM   #85 (permalink)
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white straight cis guy stands up for himself vs tumblrinas and social justice warriors


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There is a phrase that floats around college campuses, Princeton being no exception, that threatens to strike down opinions without regard for their merits, but rather solely on the basis of the person that voiced them. “Check your privilege,” the saying goes, and I have been reprimanded by it several times this year. The phrase, handed down by my moral superiors, descends recklessly, like an Obama-sanctioned drone, and aims laser-like at my pinkish-peach complexion, my maleness, and the nerve I displayed in offering an opinion rooted in a personal Weltanschauung. “Check your privilege,” they tell me in a command that teeters between an imposition to actually explore how I got where I am, and a reminder that I ought to feel personally apologetic because white males seem to pull most of the strings in the world.

I do not accuse those who “check” me and my perspective of overt racism, although the phrase, which assumes that simply because I belong to a certain ethnic group I should be judged collectively with it, toes that line. But I do condemn them for diminishing everything I have personally accomplished, all the hard work I have done in my life, and for ascribing all the fruit I reap not to the seeds I sow but to some invisible patron saint of white maleness who places it out for me before I even arrive. Furthermore, I condemn them for casting the equal protection clause, indeed the very idea of a meritocracy, as a myth, and for declaring that we are all governed by invisible forces (some would call them “stigmas” or “societal norms”), that our nation runs on racist and sexist conspiracies. Forget “you didn’t build that;” check your privilege and realize that nothing you have accomplished is real.Talinside

But they can’t be telling me that everything I’ve done with my life can be credited to the racist patriarchy holding my hand throughout my years of education and eventually guiding me into Princeton. Even that is too extreme. So to find out what they are saying, I decided to take their advice. I actually went and checked the origins of my privileged existence, to empathize with those whose underdog stories I can’t possibly comprehend. I have unearthed some examples of the privilege with which my family was blessed, and now I think I better understand those who assure me that skin color allowed my family and I to flourish today.

Perhaps it’s the privilege my grandfather and his brother had to flee their home as teenagers when the Nazis invaded Poland, leaving their mother and five younger siblings behind, running and running until they reached a Displaced Persons camp in Siberia, where they would do years of hard labor in the bitter cold until World War II ended. Maybe it was the privilege my grandfather had of taking on the local Rabbi’s work in that DP camp, telling him that the spiritual leader shouldn’t do hard work, but should save his energy to pass Jewish tradition along to those who might survive. Perhaps it was the privilege my great-grandmother and those five great-aunts and uncles I never knew had of being shot into an open grave outside their hometown. Maybe that’s my privilege.

Or maybe it’s the privilege my grandmother had of spending weeks upon weeks on a death march through Polish forests in subzero temperatures, one of just a handful to survive, only to be put in Bergen-Belsen concentration camp where she would have died but for the Allied forces who liberated her and helped her regain her health when her weight dwindled to barely 80 pounds.

Perhaps my privilege is that those two resilient individuals came to America with no money and no English, obtained citizenship, learned the language and met each other; that my grandfather started a humble wicker basket business with nothing but long hours, an idea, and an iron will—to paraphrase the man I never met: “I escaped Hitler. Some business troubles are going to ruin me?” Maybe my privilege is that they worked hard enough to raise four children, and to send them to Jewish day school and eventually City College.

Perhaps it was my privilege that my own father worked hard enough in City College to earn a spot at a top graduate school, got a good job, and for 25 years got up well before the crack of dawn, sacrificing precious time he wanted to spend with those he valued most—his wife and kids—to earn that living. I can say with certainty there was no legacy involved in any of his accomplishments. The wicker business just isn’t that influential. Now would you say that we’ve been really privileged? That our success has been gift-wrapped?

That’s the problem with calling someone out for the “privilege” which you assume has defined their narrative. You don’t know what their struggles have been, what they may have gone through to be where they are. Assuming they’ve benefitted from “power systems” or other conspiratorial imaginary institutions denies them credit for all they’ve done, things of which you may not even conceive. You don’t know whose father died defending your freedom. You don’t know whose mother escaped oppression. You don’t know who conquered their demons, or may still conquering them now.

The truth is, though, that I have been exceptionally privileged in my life, albeit not in the way any detractors would have it.

It has been my distinct privilege that my grandparents came to America. First, that there was a place at all that would take them from the ruins of Europe. And second, that such a place was one where they could legally enter, learn the language, and acclimate to a society that ultimately allowed them to flourish.

It was their privilege to come to a country that grants equal protection under the law to its citizens, that cares not about religion or race, but the content of your character.

It was my privilege that my grandfather was blessed with resolve and an entrepreneurial spirit, and that he was lucky enough to come to the place where he could realize the dream of giving his children a better life than he had.

But far more important for me than his attributes was the legacy he sought to pass along, which forms the basis of what detractors call my “privilege,” but which actually should be praised as one of altruism and self-sacrifice. Those who came before us suffered for the sake of giving us a better life. When we similarly sacrifice for our descendents by caring for the planet, it’s called “environmentalism,” and is applauded. But when we do it by passing along property and a set of values, it’s called “privilege.” (And when we do it by raising questions about our crippling national debt, we’re called Tea Party radicals.) Such sacrifice of any form shouldn’t be scorned, but admired.

My exploration did yield some results. I recognize that it was my parents’ privilege and now my own that there is such a thing as an American dream which is attainable even for a penniless Jewish immigrant.

I am privileged that values like faith and education were passed along to me. My grandparents played an active role in my parents’ education, and some of my earliest memories included learning the Hebrew alphabet with my Dad. It’s been made clear to me that education begins in the home, and the importance of parents’ involvement with their kids’ education—from mathematics to morality—cannot be overstated. It’s not a matter of white or black, male or female or any other division which we seek, but a matter of the values we pass along, the legacy we leave, that perpetuates “privilege.” And there’s nothing wrong with that.

Behind every success, large or small, there is a story, and it isn’t always told by sex or skin color. My appearance certainly doesn’t tell the whole story, and to assume that it does and that I should apologize for it is insulting. While I haven’t done everything for myself up to this point in my life, someone sacrificed themselves so that I can lead a better life. But that is a legacy I am proud of.

I have checked my privilege. And I apologize for nothing.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:18 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Only controversial cause the only ppl who cry about priv are those with loser lifestyles tryin tidiscredit oothers to justify their dumpy life to themself. Those types are hypocrites and nit to be taken serious whatsoevet
I agree with you in one sense that most underprivileged people actually don't whine and bitch about it all the time. But I feel like you're trying to say being underprivileged is a choice, which it sometimes is and then those people are losers. But I just think you should be aware, a lot of people are born into crappy situations.

Anyway, I got 60%. I was a privileged little **** as a kid.
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:33 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I agree with you in one sense that most underprivileged people actually don't whine and bitch about it all the time. But I feel like you're trying to say being underprivileged is a choice, which it sometimes is and then those people are losers. But I just think you should be aware, a lot of people are born into crappy situations.

Anyway, I got 60%. I was a privileged little **** as a kid.

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i wasnt born into a great situation but it depends what your comparing it to. i recognize just me havin internet means i was prob born into much priv compared to thrid world country ppl who will live in mud huts with no running water for life

thats one thing the feminists, tumblr fools, whoever, always seem to miss. their own priv lmao. they never get it cause they are so self absorbed.


its just such a blanket statement of hypocricy to just assume all white straight males have this unbelievable priv. none of these ppl care about individual backgrounds or any hardships those ppl had. its just a way for them to feel powerful for once in their lives and i just refuse to ever feel guilty for who i am


ive said before that there are ppl out there tryin to better themselves. and theres also a ton of ppl out there livin that loser life i was talkin about who will never progress or be more meaningful than they are today. they have to motivation, drive, etc. they are too busy whining about priv to justify their own lives to themselves and convince themselves its ok since they never had a fair shot in their mind
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Old 05-06-2014, 09:47 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Oh ok sorry I misunderstood what you were saying. I definitely agree with you on that. In particular I really think privilege is what you make of it. Having been in the Navy, I met a lot of people who were insanely underprivileged growing up that enlisted to get away from their situation and did very well for themselves. Then you've got people like that kid that used being rich as a court defense (and won) after killing several people drunk driving... That's when privilege is a problem, but I don't think most "privileged white kids" are like that.
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Old 05-07-2014, 11:56 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Some people say being "privileged" is something that you have to work hard to achieve but that is not necessarily true. We do not get to decide what socioeconomic household we become apart of when we are initially born. Hopefully, we are born into a descent and stable socioeconomic situation but that isn't the case for some people. Some people are born on the streets, into poverty or low socioeconomic standards. Who are we to say we "get to decide that" when we technically don't. When you are born into poverty or a low socioeconomically background, you are limited to your resources which inadvertently affect education, life style, etc. I like to think that I am privileged to certain opportunities that some people do not get to obtain. However, there are some that are more privileged than me and are open to more opportunities because of more resources. Overall, I feel blessed that I have been afforded the opportunities that I do have and am thankful that I was not born into poverty like so many others that did not get to decide that.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:05 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Some people say being "privileged" is something that you have to work hard to achieve but that is not necessarily true.
People that say that don't have the slightest clue.

They are all like "oh I came from humble beginnings and worked my butt off for what I have today."

They don't understand and never will.
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