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Old 04-25-2014, 02:35 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:47 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Lmao how is paedophilia discussion not relevant when the Catholic church is rampant with child abuse?? God I can't believe you keep getting more and more self righteous
I'd just like to point out that I've never heard any evidence that there is more child abuse in the Catholic Church than in other religions. It's just that the Catholic Church has a centralized "government" that can and has dealt with the situation in a systematic manner that say, Protestant churches really couldn't. So, problem isn't more Catholics being pedos so much as the Catholic Church being corrupt.

Not that I'm picking on you, just pointing that out.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:48 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I'd just like to point out that I've never heard any evidence that there is more child abuse in the Catholic Church than in other religions.
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What!?
Didn't you see all the cases in the media? and that's not counting all the cases the church kept under wraps, relocating and protecting their pedo priests instead of changing their archaic traditions of repressing sexuality.

Priest can't get married, they're expected to be above carnal needs so they don't get a girl, instead they release that sexual repression with however is around and can keep it quiet.

And who is around? altar boys.

evangelic pastors can get married, and even if they dip into the congregation it's probably to nail a hot girl not her son.

Catholic priest cannot get married, only orthodox and Anglican priest can.
And if im not mistaken, it's the catholic ones who are starting all the trouble, cause a man has to f*ck something but if you take away the female option, what is left?
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:02 AM   #64 (permalink)
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What!?
Didn't you see all the cases in the media? and that's not counting all the cases the church kept under wraps, relocating and protecting their pedo priests instead of changing their archaic traditions of repressing sexuality.
All that proves is that the cases get reported more. And they're generally more newsworthy because they involve Church cover-ups that you wouldn't get with a less centralized form of religion.

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Priest can't get married, they're expected to be above carnal needs so they don't get a girl, instead they release that sexual repression with however is around and can keep it quiet.

And who is around? altar boys.

evangelic pastors can get married, and even if they dip into the congregation it's probably to nail a hot girl not her son.

Catholic priest cannot get married, only orthodox and Anglican priest can.
And if im not mistaken, it's the catholic ones who are starting all the trouble, cause a man has to f*ck something but if you take away the female option, what is left?
That implies that sexual abstinence leads to pedophilia. Do you even know whether or not the rate of pedophile priests vs non-pedophile priests is out of proportion to the rates in regular society? It's not really something I've spent time researching, but I'm certainly not going to jump on the "Catholic priests are pedos" bandwagon just because it's an easy assumption to make due to media saturation.
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Old 04-26-2014, 11:28 AM   #65 (permalink)
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well yea i am implying that, i also recall of hearing stories about nuns having sex with farm animals back in the day and i think those acts come from the sexual repression in their doctrines.

and no i don't really have numbers to back this claim up, Im just going by human nature, celibacy is not for everyone, when you repress sexual feelings they comeback tenfold. they have to be released in some discrete way if you are taught to be ashamed of them.

And given the circumstances where a priest has easy access to children but not women it makes pedophilia a discrete alternative to let out those repressed sexual urges.

Im not saying their doctrines are breeding pedos but i think they see it as a loophole.

This is just my personal opinion though.
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well yea i am implying that, i also recall of hearing stories about nuns having sex with farm animals back in the day and i think those acts come from the sexual repression in their doctrines.

and no i don't really have numbers to back this claim up, Im just going by human nature, celibacy is not for everyone, when you repress sexual feelings they comeback tenfold. they have to be released in some discrete way if you are taught to be ashamed of them.

And given the circumstances where a priest has easy access to children but not women it makes pedophilia a discrete alternative to let out those repressed sexual urges.

Im not saying their doctrines are breeding pedos but i think they see it as a loophole.

This is just my personal opinion though.
Well when you're condemning an entire religion for producing pedophiles, whatever the reason, you can't just go by assumptions and conjecture. As an atheist I'd love nothing more than to find another reason to flip the Catholic Church the bird, but I can't justify slagging them off for this particular reason without actual evidence.
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Well when you're condemning an entire religion for producing pedophiles, whatever the reason, you can't just go by assumptions and conjecture. As an atheist I'd love nothing more than to find another reason to flip the Catholic Church the bird, but I can't justify slagging them off for this particular reason without actual evidence.
Well dude, im not gonna have a statistics battle with you im just sharing my biased opinion.

And even though i mentioned the media scandals, that's not the sole reason i came to that conclusion, i came to that conclusion after knowing their doctrines, i was raised catholic and studied in a catholic school but then my mother turned evangelical so i came in contact with 2 different doctrines.

the evangelical tend to promote having a family.
And while they too have their share of sexual repression it is not as strict as the catholic church is.
they don't expect pastors to be as divine as a priest.

I don't really follow either, im agnostic.
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It is not only Catholic Church. Other religions do it also. It just people want to only focus on the Catholic church. But pastors (well most) like to go into prostitution and screw around with the other women for enjoyment and money.
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The Catholic church gets a lot of attention because the Vatican has a distinct moral authority (legally, I mean) and there's an impression that they use it to soften repercussions for their own.
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