Scottish Independence.

14232949 · 09-12-2014, 12:39 PM

I can't see any reason why
- having our own government (that we actually voted for)
-representatives in parliament that were actually able to serve the needs of their constituents
-the ability to make our own international relations
-not deploying troops to fight in illegal invasions
-having complete control over our highly valuable natural resources
-having 100% of taxpayers money spent on Scottish people and society
-creating a fairer and more equal society
-raising the national minimum wage
-the ability to have not devolved, but complete course and direction over the governing and management of our own people
-not paying for high speed railines or a Royal Family that do nothing for us, one because they're not being constructed in our country, the other because they do literally nothing and the concept of a Monarchy is ludicrous in a supposed 21st Century democracy

would make us weaker.

Any 'No' vote is a waste of the best opportunity we've ever had for creating better lives for ourselves as a nation. Imagine being the only country in the world dumb enough to vote against their own freedom. The final shackles of the British Empire need to be broken.

Neapolitan · 09-15-2014, 05:25 PM

It could possibly be a mistake for Scotland.

If Scotland Goes: 'A Mistake As Big As The Great Depression' - Forbes

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...Deutsche Bank, which on Friday launched a provocative report on the consequences of full Scottish independence. Deutsche’s group chief economist David Folkerts-Landau put it out there in bold terms: “A ‘Yes’ vote for Scottish independence on Thursday would go down in history as a political and economic mistake as large as Winston Churchill’s decision in 1925 to return the pound to the Gold Standard or the failure of the Federal Reserve to provide sufficient liquidity to the US banking system, which we now know brought on the Great Depression in the US. These decisions – well-intentioned as they were – contributed to years of depression and suffering and could have been avoided.”

Scottish independence: ten key issues - Telegraph

09-15-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Also you'll find yourself in the situation that you can use English notes in Scotland, but won't be able to use Scottish notes in England.

This is already the case!

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

I can't see any reason why
- having our own government (that we actually voted for)
-representatives in parliament that were actually able to serve the needs of their constituents
-the ability to make our own international relations
-not deploying troops to fight in illegal invasions
-having complete control over our highly valuable natural resources
-having 100% of taxpayers money spent on Scottish people and society
-creating a fairer and more equal society
-raising the national minimum wage
-the ability to have not devolved, but complete course and direction over the governing and management of our own people
-not paying for high speed railines or a Royal Family that do nothing for us, one because they're not being constructed in our country, the other because they do literally nothing and the concept of a Monarchy is ludicrous in a supposed 21st Century democracy

would make us weaker.

Any 'No' vote is a waste of the best opportunity we've ever had for creating better lives for ourselves as a nation. Imagine being the only country in the world dumb enough to vote against their own freedom. The final shackles of the British Empire need to be broken.

Agree with all of this. Solid response.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

If Scotland Goes: 'A Mistake As Big As The Great Depression' - Forbes

One of the most exaggerated claims ever put into print. The many factors that led to The Great Depression could not and would not happen again in today's environment nevermind in Scotland.

Essentially I am voting yes because I am tired of living in a country that has these delusions of grandeur on the world stage. I want to live in a country where the people are happy and taken care of, not one that spends money on illegal wars and nuclear weapons that don't sit right with me morally.
This country's political climate is moving further away from my vision of a respectable society by the day. The people of Scotland are traditionally left leaning and socialist, so why are we being represented by a slew of politicians spouting near identical versions of the same old neoliberalism? Why are we living in a country where UKIP have a huge amount of support when Nigel Farage is greeted with angry mobs everytime he makes an appearance in Scotland? We need our elected parties to have full control, so we can begin to build a fair and just society that we can be proud of. I'd like to live in a country that tries to be more like Scandinavia than a country that trie to be more like America.
This video nails it, although the man speaking is a bit of a prat.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-15-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by James

This is already the case!

Actually it's not, you see them here all the time.
They don't have to be accepted, but they can be used.

09-16-2014, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Actually it's not, you see them here all the time.
They don't have to be accepted, but they can be used.

Yeah, they're legal tender but in my experience are rarely accepted.

09-12-2014, 12:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
14232949 The Big Dog Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,989	I can't see any reason why - having our own government (that we actually voted for) -representatives in parliament that were actually able to serve the needs of their constituents -the ability to make our own international relations -not deploying troops to fight in illegal invasions -having complete control over our highly valuable natural resources -having 100% of taxpayers money spent on Scottish people and society -creating a fairer and more equal society -raising the national minimum wage -the ability to have not devolved, but complete course and direction over the governing and management of our own people -not paying for high speed railines or a Royal Family that do nothing for us, one because they're not being constructed in our country, the other because they do literally nothing and the concept of a Monarchy is ludicrous in a supposed 21st Century democracy would make us weaker. Any 'No' vote is a waste of the best opportunity we've ever had for creating better lives for ourselves as a nation. Imagine being the only country in the world dumb enough to vote against their own freedom. The final shackles of the British Empire need to be broken.