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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560248)

Its sad that you still don't see the irony of that post. He still thinks of that word as a scientific term.

Are you saying that negroid can never ever be used even in a context that is entirely removed from racism just because of the racist connotations that you've imposed on it?

We better fire forensic scientists from law enforcement agencies so that people don't think they're racist, then.

Racist words can be used in non-racist ways though. Do you need a for instance?

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1560252)

It IS a scientific term.

But it can also be used as a racial slur too.

Why is this so hard to understand!?!?!?!?!

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1560247)

^Shows that we'll even argue on well established facts here at MB.

Right on, never thought I'd actually see evidence in this thread. Skimming through that, it looks like the term negroid was not racist by origin but was affiliated with racist theories (though a lot of those don't sound racist to me, I think Tumblr might have overtaken wiki).

I think the term racist science is clearly an antiquated theory at best. And I agree with the Negroid discussion it was an anthropological study tool for Sub Saharan categorization of people. I think we have to view two sides of the coin to get to the heart of the matter. Were I an African American would the term bother me? Hell no because i'm smarter then that. PC bull**** if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1560247)

Science is every bit of racist. Glad you see the truth for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1560252)

It IS a scientific term.

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define IS

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560248)

He still thinks of that word as a scientific term.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560255)

But it can also be used as a racial slur too.

I think of negroid as a scientific term. Lots of people think of it as a scientific term. Some people think of it as a slur. Just because some think of it as a slur doesn't make the people who think of it as a scientific term wrong. Or bad.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560248)

He still thinks of that word as a scientific term.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560255)

But it can also be used as a racial slur too.

Why is this so hard to understand!?!?!?!?!

We get it. It is a scientific term that also happens to be a racial slur. No one is debating that. The only point I'm trying to make is that context distinguishes the words meaning and Batlord acknowledged that (you said he didn't).

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560227)

You argued quite strongly that it was not a racial slur.

Yeah, no.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1560082)

But it's not necessarily a racial slur. I think it's been replaced with "congoid", but I'm pretty sure that's purely a name change just so it doesn't sound offensive, and therefore means the exact same thing. If you want to interpret negroid as racist then I can't do anything about that, but that doesn't mean you get to judge others for not sharing your particular views on language.

Notice my word choice.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1560110)

So if it's not racist then it's still potentially a perfectly valid scientific term. So why shouldn't it be usable? Lot's of things about science offend people, but that doesn't mean that it should bow to social pressure.

Clearly referencing it as a scientific term and not commenting on its different historical usages.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560071)

Negroid is a racial slur. I really hope and pray the Batlord was joking with that....

Oh look. You're conveniently denying that it's a scientific term. Unless of course you're just not communicating clearly your intent with specific word choices.

Quit putting words into my mouth in order to discredit my moral integrity and ignoring all the times when I made clear that I wasn't speaking of its non-scientific usages. That's called an "ad hominem" logical fallacy and it's bull****.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1560257)

Science is every bit of racist. Glad you see the truth for yourself.

I read this about twenty times and I'm still not sure what you mean by "science is every bit of racist." Are you saying that science is racist? Blanket statements like that are something that you see racist people doing all the time, so let's not have that.