Lord Larehip

As Bill Maher said last night, "With this many bad apples, something's wrong with the orchard."

Chula Vista

Perfect and spot on. We're ultimately doomed if we can't get it even close to right after all of this time.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people are so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

OccultHawk

Well I walked outside with a group of people and we all carried candles.


That'll learn em.

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John Wilkes Booth

****, i will be straight up and say i think you're guilty of shifting the blame away from the murderers by going on about how you think the magazine should have been smarter and should have either shut up or armed themselves etc. basically what it boils down to, to me, is certain extremists have made it clear that if you attack islam with words and drawings they will attack you back with bullets and bombs. by saying we should be smart and not 'poke the bear' or that if we do we should have some sort of bear-proof vest on when poking it, you're basically caving in and giving them exactly what they want. you're making their violence useful and in that way you're actually encouraging them to continue to be violent. the only appropriate response to me when **** like this goes down is to stand your ground. any response other than a middle finger to bearded thugs world wide is honestly cowardice and treason to me.

The Batlord

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Unknown Soldier

Standing up against an aggressor that threatens your day to day lifestyle and the environment in which you live in I agree with, but attacking an overseas demon that doesn't infringe on those rights, by the way of cartoon drawings that you know will hurt them just as much as bullets borders on the realms of stupidity, especially when you know that the demon will probably execute you for those drawings. The magazine should have heeded the warning and done cartoon cracks at jews and Christians, two mobs that won't kill you for it.

Again if they're saying that you shouldn't eat pork and 'you should do fasting' in your own home/country whether you like it or not then I agree and that's worth fighting for, but is doing some drawings really worth it and that is the question here?

They have enough reasons to be violent already, so antagonizing them further really isn't necessary especially when innocents end up dying.

You sound like a warmongering radical, luckily you're not in government.

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The Batlord

The fact that this "mob" will kill us for it, is exactly why they need to be called out for their psycho bull****. Don't antagonize them? **** that. Point out their nutbag sect's irrational nonsense for what it is in front of the entire world, cause if they're willing to kill someone over a cartoon, then their belief system needs to be scrutinized. Whatever form of Islam they practice isn't worth respecting or placating.

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John Wilkes Booth

er... they were a french magazine and they were attacked by french muslims. how exactly is that attacking an overseas demon? you're being disingenuous for the sake of appeasement imo.



having the freedom to do the cartoons is absolutely worth it. i don't like being bossed around by bearded primitives, personally. just a matter of preference i guess.



backing down isn't necessary nor helpful either. try watching some of these people talk some time. if anything they are boosted up by your cowardice because they take it as a victory.



you sound like you don't mind living under sharia. you should be deported to iraq.

Oriphiel

Have you guys ever stopped to consider than none of you are "wrong"? It's important to show caution when dealing with violent maniacs, and while the deaths of these journalists was a horrible and tragic event, it isn't unreasonable to believe that they could have taken more steps to protect themselves. But at the same time, people will always feel obligated to stand up against those who terrorize others, so it was inevitable that someone would call the terrorists out for their actions.

At the same time, there was really no way for these journalists to have prevented the bloodshed afterwards. Terrorists are infamous for killing random civilians to send a message, and if they found that the journalists were protected round-the-clock by cops, they would have just blown up a bus of civilians who had nothing to do with the event and sent a press release afterwards.

Basically, it's a horrible set of circumstances with no easy answer.