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Old 01-25-2015, 11:02 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Roxy, you should read this. I believe in God. Just not the one that man created. This book changes everything for those who can get through it.

http://www.amazon.com/Case-God-Karen...a+case+for+god
Ive read the Gnostic Gospels of Christ,lost Gospels,The Imation of Christ and several versions ofthe bible.Had to pass tests in order to be a liscened minister as well as a certified anger management teacher.Yet I find no joy in doing that sort of thing and more.I burned out.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:39 AM   #72 (permalink)
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The bible was never ever meant to control ppl which is what it has become. But Im a space alien so I read it and interpret it the way Iunderstand it The problem is keeping ones ego in check Its very easy to make God say what you want him too.
Totally get this. If you ever have the time that Karen Armstrong book blows the roof off. In a great way. She's amazing.

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Old 01-25-2015, 11:41 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Question: With the bible it's 100% or nothing else, right? You can't cherry pick. If you accept some of it you have to accept all of it.
Not necessarily, with the differences in times and authors it makes less sense to accept it in a singular sense.
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Not necessarily, with the differences in times and authors it makes less sense to accept it in a singular sense.
Agree, but as soon as you allow that loophole all hell breaks loose on its historical validity.
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Roxy, you should read this. I believe in God. Just not the one that man created. This book changes everything for those who can get through it.

http://www.amazon.com/Case-God-Karen...a+case+for+god
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Moving from the Paleolithic age to the present, Karen Armstrong details the great lengths to which humankind has gone in order to experience a sacred reality that it called by many names, such as God, Batman, Nirvana, Allah, or Dao.
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Chula you ever read Philip k dick?
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Chula you ever read Philip k dick?
Of course. I think everyone from my generation has.
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i only asked cause it looks like you're a gnostic? could be wrong i'm assuming based on roxy's response really, i didn't check out the book you posted.

but i was curious did you ever read valis? and if so what did you think of it?
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Agree, but as soon as you allow that loophole all hell breaks loose on its historical validity.
I'd say each book (or series of books, since some of them were written at the same time) should be taken on its own accord in terms of historical validity. For example, the Torah (first five chapters of the Bible, might be four i forget) can be taken with a larger grain of salt than other biblical texts because it was created to justify Judaic laws after the Jews were conquered by the Persians. The Persian emperor allowed for autonomy in religion and law as long as they were based off of holy texts, so while some things were earlier carried by word of mouth like Genesis, things like Deutoronomy can be written off as products of their time.
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