Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1579115)

Um...Life?

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579142)

I dunno I feel like its less humane to sentence someone to life.
Because its not like the government will torture you on death row,and the death is quick and painless,provided you don't request a firing squad. I feel like a life in say a supermax is worse then death.Leaving yer mind to deteriorate.Seems crueler then a quick injection.

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1579171)

dunno i think roxy has an interesting point tbh

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1579186)

I died a few years ago. So I guess that's where I am.

Originally Posted by DeadChannel (Post 1579189)

Oh, well, that's a different angle.

I was just talking about it for me personally. I'd rather live in jail than die, but I guess I'll have to give it more thought for rapists and child molesters and ****.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579185)

Thanks man, I have spent quite a long time thinking about this, as I am pro death. I am pro death in the event of brutal crimes. The ones that involve children, and just unspeakable crimes against others. I think it's ludicrous to say well no that's barbaric. Because what they have done to their victims is a thousand times worse then what the governing state is going to do them. People don't think twice about putting down a rabid dog, because it has brain rot. But a rabid human with brain rot, and soul rot, we kinda parade around and say silly **** like we are no better then they are. Well it's not a matter of being better, it's a matter of paying the for crime. And condemning someone to a life where they spend 23 hours a day alone in a cell is far more barbaric then hitting the reset button. Madness is a far crueler mistress then 5 minutes on a gurney being injected with the proper mixture of poison. I don't understand imprisoning them saying it's less cruel. Lets be real with it.

Edit: Also a lot of ppl on death row never apologize for the atrocities the have committed and hoot and holler and appeal and appeal and act like babies. Man you knew you were in a state that has this penalty for capitol murder. Man up suck it up and go down like a man. Same thing for the person that steals my tv. Man up suck it up go do yer stint in the jail and don't do it again.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579195)

Really? How's the weather where you are?

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1579272)

The death penalty can cost far more than life incarceration. On average, the trials alone cost millions of dollars more than trials where the defense seeks life incarceration, ranging from two to eight times more expensive.

Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center

Add that to the normal costs of maintaining a prisoner for years (as it usually takes many years for the execution to happen, TIME ON DEATH ROW | Death Penalty Information Center) in death row, and taking the subsequent appeals and investigations into account, and the costs become astronomical. Here's an interesting collection of professionals in the criminal justice world and their opinions on the death penalty versus life incarceration. (Does the Death Penalty Cost Less Than Life in Prison without Parole? - Death Penalty - ProCon.org) And actually, there are a few proponents of the death sentence who bring up good points, and that the costs don't have to be so high and can be reformed. There's even a proponent of the death penalty who claims that it costs less in the end (even though he claims this based on the information of one study, which has been refuted by the vast majority of studies into the costs of the death penalty, and really isn't even a study since it's basically guesswork as to what it will cost in the future rather than an examination of what it costs now). Read through the opinions, and decide what you believe.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1579268)

Way I sees it, if someone is such a threat to society that it warrants killing them, then their psychology is probably worth studying. So instead of the death penalty, just stick them in a maximum security nuthouse and use them for study until the day they die of natural causes. There's so much we don't know about psychopaths, and so few times we actually get our hands on a confirmed one, that it's a waste of resources to just flush them down the drain.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579289)

Yet, there are tons of stuidies done showing there is no real difference between theirbrains and ours.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579287)

Oh I am well aware of the cost of execution. We do a lot of crazier **** than that, that costs way more everyday.
It doesn't make me advocate a life sentence. .Im sorry, it just doesn't. Its the job of the governing state to keep the rest of its inhabitants safe, And like I said before, well kill a rabid dog and not think twice about it.But a person,that can do more damage then an entire pack of rabid animals well lock them up and throw away the key.
It costs buocoupe money to house them till they die of natural or unnaturally die.So I fail to see not executing some one over a budget clause.

Edit: Also I don't need to read through and decide what I believe dahling, because I have said it 57 times. I am pro death in the event of horrific cases involving, children, rapes, and gruesome violent deaths.

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1579295)

Not true. For example, most experts agree that damage to the brain's frontal lobe is one of the leading similarities that the majority of murderers and serial killers have. There are other things that have been identified as pre-disposers to a life of violence as well, and not all of them have to do with someone's brain/neurochemical receptors; exposure to violence at a young age, particularly of the sexual variety, often influences people towards living in social isolation, as well as having violent tendencies. But there are so many parts of the brain that, when damaged, can cause someone to act erratically, and it's very important for experts to study the minds of killers so that they can identify just what led them to such behavior (whether because of nature, nurture, or both).

Sources: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-serial-killer, Predestined Serial Killers | Serendip Studio, Criminal Profiling: The Psychology of a Serial Killer, Inside the Mind of a Killer - ABC News



And yet, as I showed in my sources, it has been almost unanimously proven to cost millions more to execute them than to imprison them for life. And those millions come directly from the taxes that you pay. It's a waste of time and money, and there are only two defenses that it's proponents have: "But some people just deserve to die!" and "Imprisoning someone for life is cruel and madness-inducing! Show them mercy!" The first is pretty pointless, as life without parole is more than sufficient to keep the so-called "unforgivable monsters" off the street. And the second is foolish because it puts words into the prisoners mouths; who are you to decide what they would prefer? Why not just let those who are convicted to life without parole have the option to an execution, rather than forcing them to live or die according to your morals?

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1579310)

Life, as long as the female membership here keeps sending me a steady stream of naughty photos.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579315)

Nobody is living or dying according to my morals bro. It's actually quite the opposite. I am just saying how I feel about it. And that will never change. And let the accused choose their fate? Really? Did the victims get to choose theirs? No. Also stats throwers are not my cup of tea. There are three kinds of lies, lies, damn lies and statistics.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1579316)

Nobody sends you nudes dude. Quit lyin.

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1579319)

Yeah, facts are such a nuisance.