Why do people get annoyed at people who care about minority social issues?
 

I am not expecting for some people to care about minority issues because it is has been this way since slavery. However, lately I have been quite annoyed at the passiveness and disrespect that some people have for minorities who really care about the current racial problems concerning black people. Now I understand everyone doesn't care and won't be on the same page but I personally get irritated when some try to past off these issues as nothing or as things that don't matter. I get irritated when I see this on the internet and even in media depictions. Within the last 5 years, there have been multiple young black men that have been killed and murdered by white people so its alarming that some are shocked at black peoples reactions.

I have always found that to be strange. I know some people don't like to discuss minority issues on this board and that is okay. No one is not making you reply in this thread please don't derail it with foolishness.

Far more young black men have been murdered by other young black men in the past 5 years than have been murdered by white people. The percentages are around 93 percent annually according to FBI, CDC, and BJS records (all of which can be researched online.)

Black on black crime is definitly an issue that has been discussed a lot in the past. I also acknowledge that issue, a issue that is rooted in classicism, poverty and other factors.

However, that issue does not excuse police brutality. Furthermore, there are just as many white police officers who have terrorized blacks, assaulted them or unfairly murdered them compared to whites. I showed the statistics in another thread.

Because I hate black people.

So how do you propose we fix this issue?

Your original post didn't say anything about police though, just white people.

You and everyone else on MusicBanter

speak for yourself, peckerwood. the only ethnic group i hate are armenians.

Boo hoo, **** happens. The world isn't perfect.

Armenians are fine. It's those ****ing Hungarians you gotta look out for.

I'd like to know Soulflowers thoughts on the fact that more white people have been shot down by police than black people.

This isn't referring to you directly, I don't know you and haven't seen many of your posts.

People generally get annoyed at protesting minority social issues when they're brought up in odd settings. When you're having coffee with your friends, when you're discussing the weekend camping trip, when you're playing poker, when you're grindin' rails at the skatepark, when you're at a party, when you're watching a movie, when you're walking the dog, when you're on music forums etc etc. Most people understand that these issues are important, but bringing them up in unrelated places doesn't solve anything, we get that awareness is important but it's not going to go any further than that on the general internet, everyone is a click away from discovering some sweet new tunes rather than saving the world.

If people want to effectively work towards social solutions they've got to do it in the right setting, get the message to the right people with the resources to actually make a significant move. And this isn't in defense of apathetic computer chair slugs like us, it's just how it is. If you want to be productive in a particular endeavor, whether that's working for social solutions or getting a particular job or getting a grade changed on your final exam or whatever, you need to know who you're talking to and anticipate their reactions, is our attention really worth your time and effort?

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― George Orwell

for me personally.. it's more like i don't know what i'm supposed to do/say about this kind of ****. i mean i've shared my experience/views about the police and profiling in the past and that's really the extent of what i can say in a thread like this that will actually be meaningful.

i mean say some black kid gets shot by the cops. my response is that's sad, let the courts deal with it. what am i supposed to do about it? it's not like white people have big meetings where we all get together and vote on how racist we're going to be as a society. i haven't shot any black kids myself. beyond that i dunno what you expect from me.

i look at it really the same as i look at any other high profile criminal case. like say casey anthony. i won't spend my time going over the details of that murder. maybe she murdered her kid, maybe she didn't. i mean she probably did. but yea. not really anything i can reasonably expect to add to that. let the courts deal with it.

so i guess i'm asking a similar question as roxy, maybe not quite the same. her question was how do you solve it, my question is what would you expect your average person to contribute to the effort to solve it?

No I did not.

I did not just focus on white people.

I said within the last few years, white people (white cops) have killed minorities (specifically black men). These issues have been publicized. Police brutality are mostly implemented by the majority (white people)

That is just a fact.

There is no getting around it and with that point I mentioned why are people so upset at the reactions of black people when this type of thing happens everyday? Some minorities are just fed up with it and its understandable

So we shouldn't be upset about the idiots who are burning and looting businesses and people's homes in Baltimore these past couple of days?

Do you condone that sort of "demonstration"?

No I don't.... but this type of thing happens when nothing is done when innocent black people get murdered by the hands of police.

Then when black people riot, they get depicted as "wild animals" but its okay to murder innocent black lives because well.... they don't matter.

A white life is worth more than a black life.

Thats the message that is being sent.

Why are so many people upset at the actions of what SOME white cops are doing when this type of thing happens?

:laughing:

Yeah, no.

I really appreciate this thoughtful post. I actually agree with everything in this post.

However, I still do not see anything wrong with discussing these issues over the internet or just in passing. (This is not directed towards you) but a lot of times in these discussions people always say "What are you going to do about it?" out of defense because they don't want to talk about the topic or they do not think the topic is that important.

Its an issue that needs intelligent discussions on how it can be fixed and productive people actively fixing it.

You can't just be productive about fixing a problem without talking about the problem and how it can be fixed.

tbh i'm not really 'upset' that people are rioting

i'm not going to cheer them on for it

and honestly i think they are doing themselves and their own community a disservice

but that's their problem at the end of the day

Did you just promote and defame discussion of a solution in the same post?

I'm not arguing with the question you asked. I was just pointing out that you didn't say anything about cops in the OP.

You JUST focused on white people.

This thread is officially a joke.

i only laugh at unofficial jokes

Dude, martial law in Baltimore. Watch out for Bruce Willis.


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that guy didn't have a gun

I'm bored enough to chime in on one of these threads for once with my crappy opinions because human beings think they should have an opinion on everything and I am unfortunately of the human species.

Black and white are just colors. The difference in something as trivial as skin color means absolutely nothing at all to me, and of course I find police brutality appalling. It happens to people of all races. You keep bringing up that it happens primarily between white cops and black people and focusing on WHITE PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE, but how much of these incidents are actually fueled by direct racism? There have been a lot of notable events lately that are for the most part completely inexcusable acts of police brutality, but there are some where the victim was not as innocent as depicted. It seems like people rally behind the victim whether they're innocent or not just because of their skin color and tensions are running higher and higher between the police and black people. I'm not sure why everybody's taking all these cases full of gray areas and making them out to be black and white for their cause. In this specific case in Baltimore, people should be upset. In the ongoing battle of continual injustice to people of ALL color by the police, people should be upset. Why does it always have to be about color, though? In areas where there are lots of crime it's inevitable for different colors to meet and clash. If someone seems dangerous or has committed a crime there is the issue of police prioritizing their safety, creating the possibility for their decision making to end badly. A lot of complex issues at hand differing per case seem to be translating into MURDEROUS WHITE COPS KILLING INNOCENT YOUNG BLACK MEN pretty fast these days.

How much of these statistics are just a coincidence? How much of it is the fault of the police, the fault of the people? You say do black lives not matter, but who are you talking about? All lives matter equally to me. When it's BLACK LIVES MATTERRRRRRR, YOU RACIST WHITE MEN every single incident and opportunity without regard for innocence or facts, that is where I start to get annoyed. It isn't because I'm blinding myself with my 'white privilege', it's because of a lack of logic. As far as the rioting goes, I don't let it change my opinion on the actual protesters. The people who choose to riot are hypocrites. They're fucking over innocent people themselves. You say they're angry, but that doesn't excuse it. Some of them don't even care and are just using the opportunity to loot. If you care about your cause, then you should also rally against people like that. They take advantage of and shit on everything you believe in. I understand the rioting on a certain level, but I still cannot defend it just to cater to a cause (even if it's important.) It might be because I'm a shut in, but I think the problem on the police's end has less to do with the color of people's skin. There is a big problem, yes, but there's much more to it than solely racism. I find it hard to believe that the vast majority of police officers are ignorant murderous racists. I think getting cameras on all police officers is a good start to tackling this giant feces-infested maze.

In conclusion, I remain bored.

a "good" read here The Skin I'm In, especially about his friends not understanding it.

and this is fucking canada

Black on Black crime or Police brutality?

Why come into a thread when you don't care about the topic?


The joke is on you.

This makes no sense.

You don't care about this issue. You don't like me and you have only came in this thread to derail it.

Just leave quietly and allow people who really care about the topic to discuss.

Sounded like you were saying that people need to talk about this issue while also saying it was pointless since nobody cares to talk about it.

No I did not imply that all.


Why don't you re-read it again.

You people clearly have not read up on the Racism Handbook. Chapter 9 Section 8.1.6.3 of the Fourth Edition clearly states that if you do not agree completely with every one of Soulflower's stances then you are an ignorant racist who does not care about social issues and you should be banned from all discussions on these issues.