South Carolina shooting
 

The rundown: some White dude walks into an African American church in Charleston, sits around while they're all praying for a bit, and then decides to shoot and kill 9 people. He leaves a few alive on purpose and tells them he did it so that the survivors could tell people what happened. Luckily after a huge manhunt the scumbag was caught by police just a little bit ago.

Obviously a hate crime and he'll likely be charged federally to life in prison.

well i don't know about you people, but i think this white guy sounds like a real jerk

More than likely it'll be death. Hate crimes can be punishable by death. In order for it to be death penalty worthy, it has to be two or more people, or law enforcement officer. A girlfriend of mine had had her head bashed in and her boyfriend was murdered next to her (for a bottle of wild irish rose and 10 bucks fyi.) And the prosecutor looked at her and said I can't seek death two or more had to die or it had to be a cop.

Why?

This story is just plain sad, I'm not gonna go into the whole racism thing this is, and I just want to say that either way this story is just extremely sad.

Because they have an elevated place in the legal system because they are part of it. Listen it's a big club, right all of them lawyers, cops, judges they all are in bed together literally, they marry each-other, you have whole families in law enforcement. They look after their own. I dunno if the laws for capitol punishment are different from state to state but I am pretty sure a federal hate crime like that is punishable by death. **** looked at Tim Mcveigh not exactly a hate crime, but children were involved and it was very reminiscent of the church bombing in Alabama in the 60s where those four little girls died. They kill you for those types of things, as it should be imo. You just aren't fit man, to be part of this world again imo.

It also has to do with maintaining law and order by attaching greater consequences to actions against those who are charged with maintaining it. Does it seem fair that committing a crime against someone who just happens to have a badge will result in more serious repercussions? Maybe not. But if assaulting a police officer didn't result in a more serious charge than a regular assault, then it would probably result in a lot more assaults on police officers, which may very well undermine the safety of the public by making police more likely to be targeted.

Have to admit, when I first heard about it I was thinking "please don't be a white guy, please don't be a white guy". But of course it was. Evil bastard.

God forbid they know what it feels like. :rolleyes:

Regardless of how many show themselves unworthy of special consideration, the police in general still provide a necessary service that needs to be protected.

I don't know what to say about this. Words fail me. :(

If by protected you mean overthrown and restructured, than I totally agree.

How would you "overthrow" the police? Fire them all and hire all knew ones?

Serpico.*

*Thanks for teaching me about him Roxy :D

;).

Care to elaborate?

It's a movie.

Serpico (1973) - IMDb

Really guys? Its a classic.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with overthrowing the current police force?

He wants to clean house not overthrow it, its a job for Serpico or Batman.

If Al Pacino is in it, it has to be realistic. I'm with you guys.

Serpico's a brilliant movie all right. :thumb:

Shame on all of you its on netflix for godsakes.

It is a great movie. Realistically implanting that in our police force? It could happen I guess, but it'd take several years.

Oh ok I miss read that.

Pacino's a little old to be taking on law enforcement now though isn't he? ;)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...l_Pacino_S.jpg

Moral of the story: Two black lives equals one white police officer's life. Bull****.

I'm not sure where you got that. I don't think he said that; he's just responding to the question as to why the murder of a police officer is prosecuted more diligently and carries higher penalties (ie death) than "ordinary" murders.

I meant to quote roxy. Whoops

So in every picture I see of the shooter he looks a little "off". Everyone that's being interviewed who knew him from school, etc. is saying he was a little "off".
And he's been spouting hate rhetoric for quite some time.

Yet Dad buys him a .45 handgun for his birthday recently.

No, color doesn't (shouldn't) come into play at all. But when you murder a police officer, you are destroying the system, which is designed to preserve the system. You can say it however you want to, but the system is always designed to preserve the system. And thusly, shooting a police officer has a higher penalty. Roxy is right though, cops stick together. She's wrong in one sense though, lawyers do not. They are blood thirsty, cut throat, law quoting vampires.

Which is why I'm surprised that daddy-o hasn't been charged with a lesser form. Knowingly giving a handgun to someone who is a "little off" could be considered a criminal act. And if you, as his parent, couldn't have figured out he was a "little off" then you need to wake the f*ck up.

I'm offended everybody needs representation.
You guys are just as bad, sliding up on people,making em think your their best friend,bang 25.
I've been part of a probative very probative police investigation, where I've been watched and followed and just when they knew my weak points bang, pull me in with a tape recorder, halfway through they turned the tape back on after me saying listen this fool is gonna kill me.... Nah cops are worse then lawyers.

I'm sorry, but that was too much of a rant to be comprehensible. Que?

Gee thanks love you too by the bye check the electrical outlet in the bathroom for the wire tap.

you gonna tell me with a straight face they don't lie, or cheat to get info they need?^

Nope. But are you going to tell me with a straight face that all cops are the same?

To a degree you are, yes you have to be able to separate yourself from the job you do yeah?

OK so getting my confession, or statement are part of the job you do, you wouldn't be doing your job if you weren't trying to hustle me. You personally might feel some sorta empathy for me or my situation, yeah but ain't gone stop you from hustlin me to get your job done. You don't bite the hand that signs your checks.

From the stream-of-conscious rant you just posted, it makes it pretty obvious that you have a grudge against the police that's affecting your objectivity. It's understandable if you've been screwed by them in the past, but you seem to be painting them with an unfairly broad brush.

Meet me at 3:30 and bring all the money this time.

So true.

Shooters of color are called