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Trollheart 01-22-2016 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1672477)
TH phrased it in such a way, as if he wants to deport all muslims living in America, Goof questioned it, I told the correct version, you backed it up with the video.

I admit I only saw one Republican presidential debate, but I did hear Cruz or Rubio say something to the effect of "Trump wants to round up all Muslims living in America and ship them out". I didn't hear Trump object to this or contradict it, which is why I said what I said. I wonder what he'll do about the no doubt many muslims working in his hotels, casinos, night clubs and within his organisation?

Trollheart 01-22-2016 08:58 AM


grindy 01-22-2016 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1672485)
I admit I only saw one Republican presidential debate, but I did hear Cruz or Rubio say something to the effect of "Trump wants to round up all Muslims living in America and ship them out". I didn't hear Trump object to this or contradict it, which is why I said what I said. I wonder what he'll do about the no doubt many muslims working in his hotels, casinos, night clubs and within his organisation?

As Goofle said, most likely nothing.
Being very populist and not afraid to tell those supposed uncomfortable truths is pretty much all he does.

Trollheart 01-22-2016 09:05 AM

FOX News defends Muslims against Trump! :yikes:

Paul Smeenus 01-22-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1672490)
As Goofle said, most likely nothing.
Being very populist and not afraid to tell those supposed uncomfortable truths is pretty much all he does.


So, grindy, I like you but I'm guessing you didn't watch the 9:20 video in the three minutes between Trollhearts video and your response. Could it be that you'd already made up your mind?

Frownland 01-22-2016 09:19 AM

To be fair, most of that video is discussion and Trump's actual comments make up very little of the video.

grindy 01-22-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1672501)
So, grindy, I like you but I'm guessing you didn't watch the 9:20 video in the three minutes between Trollhearts video and your response. Could it be that you'd already made up your mind?

I didn't.
Watching Trump (most politicians actually, but him especially) speak is way too disgusting for me, the short video you posted is about as much as I can bear.
I prefer reading.
Was there some real, tangible indication that his boasting will result in actual policies?
I haven't made up my mind in any way. He seems to be more about shouting, than actually doing stuff, but it could very well be that I'm wrong.

Goofle 01-22-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1672482)
So is a helluva lot of Europe, especially Sweden and Denmark. We should do so well. And Bernie is a Social Democratic.

I'm not a fan of socialism in any form to be honest, so I'd pass on it.

Paul Smeenus 01-22-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1672529)
I'm not a fan of socialism in any form to be honest, so I'd pass on it.

Oh...so you're moving?

Paul Smeenus 01-22-2016 12:37 PM

I'm gonna backpedal from that a bit, I was being a dick, what I should've said is that every modern society has some level of socialist policy. It's not communism.

FRED HALE SR. 01-22-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1672569)
I'm gonna backpedal from that a bit, I was being a dick, what I should've said is that every modern society has some level of socialist policy. It's not communism.

Thanks Obama.

Paul Smeenus 01-22-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1672572)
Thanks Obama.


Hahaha lol literally this time


An example, I would imagine that whatever part of the UK you're in has public transit, that's a form of socialized transportation services.

Trollheart 01-22-2016 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1672577)
Hahaha lol literally this time


An example, I would imagine that whatever part of the UK you're in has public transit, that's a form of socialized transportation services.

You'll probably find it hard to believe, but we have that here in Ireland too. Those horse traps can move at a fair lick! Mind you, the schedule is always thrown out when the driver stops for "just one". Board transport 2:30pm, arrive at destination, one hour away, sometime after midnight! Ah, it's grand to be Oirish!
:laughing: :beer:

Goofle 01-22-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1672560)
Oh...so you're moving?

I've seen your posts after this so I accept you weren't being entirely serious/backtracked a little, but the UK most certainly isn't socialist. Just for anyone who was not aware.

Paul Smeenus 01-22-2016 04:36 PM

It's about as socialist as the US, there's pockets with social program like the public transportation example. I certainly wouldn't equate it to Denmark or Sweden which I think words very well, but it's not true that there's no park of it in any country including the UK

Paul Smeenus 01-22-2016 04:41 PM

Conversely, even highly socialized countries like Sweden and Denmark have a strong free-enterprise system

Franco Pepe Kalle 01-25-2016 01:46 PM

Stupidity of Donald Trump is what is making him popular.

Chula Vista 01-25-2016 01:54 PM

Keeping up With the Kardashians in on its 11th season, making it the longest running US reality show ever. This is why Trump is popular.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/0bdb89a42...08n1o2_250.gif

Franco Pepe Kalle 01-25-2016 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1673633)
Keeping up With the Kardashians in on its 11th season, making it the longest running US reality show ever. This is why Trump is popular.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/0bdb89a42...08n1o2_250.gif

You are right about that. It is so scary to have an idiot and a semi-illiterate moron like Donald Trump.

But thanks to the domination of Reality TV and we prefer more reality stars more, we end up with an idiot like Donald Trump.

What the **** has America come to.

Isbjørn 02-13-2016 02:43 PM

Is making fun of Donald Trump getting old? Should we be focusing on other things? I don't know - but I found this hilarious.

I found more.

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 03:00 PM

If he's elected I'll be a Canadian within a year.

Goofle 02-13-2016 03:26 PM

Then you'd have Justin Trudeau. Blergh.

Xurtio 02-13-2016 03:41 PM

Trudeau is meh, but still appears 10x better than Harper

Two Spirit 02-13-2016 03:50 PM

People were saying they would leave the U.S if Bush/Obama got elected/re-elected and it didn't happen in any noticeable sense.

Same thing will happen if Trump wins. A lot of anger and disbelief at first, but people will realize their livelihood is still better than going through the legal effort of becoming a citizen in another country.

To sum it up, people will learn to deal with it, just like they have with every other controversial president that we've had.

Paul Smeenus 02-13-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1679754)
Then you'd have Justin Trudeau. Blergh.


I like him.

OccultHawk 02-13-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1679752)
If he's elected I'll be a Canadian within a year.

That would be funny if Canada ended up being the ones who build a wall.

Frownland 02-29-2016 09:39 AM

I can't wait for Trump's response to John Oliver's segment on him, you know it's gonna be some good ****.

Paul Smeenus 02-29-2016 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1683348)
I can't wait for Trump's response to John Oliver's segment on him, you know it's gonna be some good ****.


JIC there's anyone that hasn't seen this, even by John Oliver's lofty standards this is fucking brilliant



Chula Vista 02-29-2016 10:19 AM

That was ****ing great!!!

Goofle 02-29-2016 10:19 AM

John Oliver is absolutely hilarious.

Still, Trump 4 Prez.

Frownland 02-29-2016 10:21 AM

Trump's presidency is like global warming: you can deny it all you want but it's still going to happen regardless of what you think.

Paul Smeenus 02-29-2016 10:44 AM

The election of November 2016 will see the non-Drumpf candidate will win New York/New England and the Left Coast, Drumpt will win the mid-west and south. The election will come down to the purple states in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Pennsylvania

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The Batlord 02-29-2016 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1683363)
The election of November 2016 will see the non-Drumpf candidate

ftfy

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will win New York/New England and the Left Coast, Drumph will win the mid-west and south. The election will come down to the purple states in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Pennsylvania
If my state votes Drumpf, I'm not sure whether I'll be proud or ashamed. All I know is that I'm not going to miss this once in a lifetime opportunity to vote for The Donald.

#trollamerica

Paul Smeenus 02-29-2016 11:25 AM

^ fixed

Paul Smeenus 02-29-2016 11:32 AM

BTW, you'd be voting Drumpf to troll America, not because he'd make a good POTUS, and the fact that he might win in November on that basis across America is terrifying. C'mon, people, I really can't afford to emigrate (although I to love Vancouver, BC).

The Batlord 02-29-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1683371)
BTW, you'd be voting Drumpf to troll America, not because he'd make a good POTUS, and the fact that he might win in November on that basis across America is terrifying. C'mon, people, I really can't afford to emigrate (although I to love Vancouver, BC).

The country is already in a slow, unstoppable decline, so speeding up the process is a small price to pay for the lulz. You get the leader you deserve, and if America is really willing to elect Donald ****ing Drumpf, then karma will prevail and all will be right with the universe.

Goofle 02-29-2016 11:53 AM

I know you're big on Bernie Paul, and I can somewhat understand his appeal as a 'progressive' anti-establishment kind of guy, but I don't see how Hillary would be a better option if it were to come down to her and Trump (and I am guessing it will based on what I read).

Trump may not agree with you or I on everything, but I think he's the kind of guy that will at least want to protect your freedoms. And whilst you may see him as a joke figure, I think we all know that when it comes down to it, he isn't just going to make decisions out of thin air.

I watched his speech a few days ago (the one in front of an alleged "30,000 people") and the guy seemed reasonable. Obviously he has a certain charisma and brashness that screams "WTF, how on Earth is this guy actually running for president?", but what he was actually saying didn't alarm me.

There's a lot of fear mongering and pseudo-journalism in the world today, and the problem is that it's often hard to sieve through it all and come to a conclusion because you don't know what to believe. I'm certainly not sold on Trump as a candidate, but I know that - at this moment in time - he's the one I would vote for if I were an American.

Paul Smeenus 02-29-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1683376)
Trump may not agree with you or I on everything, but I think he's the kind of guy that will at least want to protect your freedoms.


I don't have time right now to discuss all the points I wish to cover, but I will quickly address this. In this country, this means GUNS and GUNS and GUNS and more and more GUNS. There is absolutely NO UK equivalent to the gun lobby in the US. Actually this is one of the issues I think Hilary is very strong, or at least talks a good game on the issue. Drumpf will be a shill for the gun lobby. I'll talk more about this later.

Frownland 02-29-2016 05:16 PM

As a brash asshole myself, I think that it would be a ****ing riot to hang out with Trump, but I don't think that makes him electable. What really strikes me (apart from the scapegoating) is his inconsistency on basically everything despite the fact that he demonizes other politicians for the same exact thing. It's quite obvious to me that he's pandering the Republican base of the US, which has grown into a parody of what the party represented thirty years ago.

Goofle 02-29-2016 05:22 PM

Indont even think Trump is republican (or Conservative, whatever) he's just on that side because of the system in place.

I'm also pro guns so I don't really have an issue with that.


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