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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth
(Post 1620581)
i've heard people on the left claim the opposite. i've be honest and say i don't know that much about the economics... so feel free to go ahead and share those studies with me.
but i stand by my comment on trump & co tapping into xenophobia. that's not the same as saying there's no legitimate issue to be had with immigration... i just know rabble rousing when i see it, i can tell it by its tone. so i'm calling a spade a spade.
i mean the basic picture that ann paints is that the democrats (specifically ted kennedy or whoever) passed an immigration bill in the 60's for the sole purpose of changing the racial demographics of the country because this would be favorable for democrats... she talks about how the left glorifies the 'browning of america,' and to a certain extent she's correct about that. but in pointing all of this out, clearly they are worried about more than just economics. we've been hearing 'warnings' about whites becoming a minority in this country for decades now. there's simply no way to spin that kind of rhetoric as being about working class jobs or economics... they're weary of demographic changes as well. once again, that's not to say that there aren't any economic concerns, and i'm open to hearing those. but it doesn't negate the cultural aspect of the issue.
same with me saying the leftist media takes a lot of trump's statements and disects them/amplifies them to broadcast the message that "trump calls illegal immigrants mostly rapists" or some **** like that... i see that as a dishonest media tactic, since that's really an exaggeration of the message he was attempting to send... even though at the same time i know trump was being purposely inflammatory and preying on xenophobic and racist sentiments.
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I see, although I do not respect Coulter enough to read or listen to her opinions I am familiar with other conservative writers who touch on the cultural issue of immigration.
One could argue that the cultural aspect of immigration & race crosses over into economics when white people start worrying about being economically displaced by other ethnic groups. (A building contract going to a firm that employs cheaper Hispanic labour, a white guy not being called back for a return day on the job as a minority on a worksite ect. )
I imagine that would be the cultural fear that they are tapping into it, as I can't forsee people galvanizing together because they miss seeing Christmas lights in every neighborhood or classic rock being played at every bar, but I live in Canada not the States, so who knows.
If Ann Coulter thinks that the Democrats in the 60's passed the immigration bill because the browning of America would favor their party than she's an idiot. That is something a white supremacist like David Duke would believe.
I would however agree with other Conservatives like Rush Limbaugh that immigration from Mexico is primarily votes for the democratic party. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that, you just have to look at the historic polling data. Traditionally immigrants tend to favor parties that are pro immigration, and welfare state because it suits their interests. The Irish & Italian were no different until they worked their way up the ladder.
I do to some extent understand what Ann is getting at though. There has been a concerted effort by the left to push multiculturalism and "mass" immigration through political correctness. When I was in University I had to take these elective courses on multiculturalism that made me examine my white privilege by unpacking my invisible white knapsack and identifying why Eurocentric films like Lord of the Rings were harmful in today's culturally diverse society. It was f'n weird $hit lol, but whatever, I just went along with it and got an A.
Again for me I don't really care about the cultural aspect of immigration. If someone said to me tomorrow that erasing the Mexican border will increase my life expectancy by 10 years and improve my retirement savings plan, I would be like fu(kin A, where do I sign up.
I don't have any links to provide you off hand, but there is a lot of evidence on the subject. My favourite liberal economist Paul Krugman wrote an article on immigration and the downward pressure of wages for unskilled labour a while back, should be easy to find on the net.