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E5I5O 07-24-2015 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1618457)
Hmmm, words to the wise newbie, stay out of the political forum until folks get to know you, otherwise you'll end up as being as popular as Lord Lardship on this forum.

Well, politics, religion, race and other socially relevant topics (I'm speaking in general right now) often tend to be hot button topics. I've never seen topics like that not end up in a flame fest. I really find those subjects interesting though. But I get where you're coming from. Thanks for the advice.

grindy 07-24-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by E5I5O (Post 1618463)
Well, politics, religion, race and other socially relevant topics (I'm speaking in general right now) often tend to be hot button topics. I've never seen topics like that not end up in a flame fest. I really find those subjects interesting though. But I get where you're coming from. Thanks for the advice.

Actually those topics are usually debated here in a relatively peaceful manner.
It does get heated quite often, but people seldom resort to straight out hatred, flaming and serious insults.

Machine 07-24-2015 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by E5I5O (Post 1618161)
wow.... you're really caught up in the frenzy of what won't be after this year (election) you're repetitive..... so you got all these individuals supporting you and defending you.... online? that's pretty weak of you.... all I wanted to do is talk to you..... but I guess that won't be a possibility... eh? you'd rather hide behind the skirt of political correctness..... or hide behind any skirt that suits you..... I'm more than happy to talk to you.... but that can't be.... can it?..... oh, well....

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...e487/osama.gif

Everytime you end a part of a sentence with .... an angel ****ing dies.

Machine 07-24-2015 01:36 AM

Also Trump is really funny; Sanders 2016.

E5I5O 07-24-2015 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1618468)
Everytime you end a part of a sentence with .... an angel ****ing dies.

really? then I'll keep doing it.... btw, we don't need a comedian in office... we need someone who can run the country without sending us into a downward spiral... i.e. georlgy jr

Machine 07-24-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by E5I5O (Post 1618488)
really? then I'll keep doing it.... btw, we don't need a comedian in office... we need someone who can run the country without sending us into a downward spiral... i.e. georlgy jr

Well that's pretty inconsiderate to all those angels you're murdering in cold blood. I knew your beard was sketchy.

Chula Vista 07-24-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine (Post 1618558)
Well that's pretty inconsiderate to all those angels you're murdering in cold blood. I knew your beard was sketchy.

You should have posted that a virgin dies.

E5I5O 07-24-2015 12:04 PM

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...nsonsgirls.jpg

Frownland 07-24-2015 12:06 PM

I'm not sure if you're not making sense or if I'm too high to understand it.

Machine 07-24-2015 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1618608)
You should have posted that a virgin dies.

Ah damn you're right total missed opportunity.

The Batlord 07-24-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1618615)
I'm not sure if you're not making sense or if I'm too high to understand it.

I'm assuming it's a Charles Manson joke.

Chula Vista 07-24-2015 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1618620)
I'm assuming it's a Charles Manson joke.

The X's carved into their foreheads is a dead giveaway.

The Batlord 07-24-2015 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1618623)
The X's carved into their foreheads is a dead giveaway.

I can't even make out the Swastikas. Charlie's League of German Girls.

Frownland 07-24-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1618620)
I'm assuming it's a Charles Manson joke.

I'm aware of that, I'm not sure why it's in a Donald trump thread though. Was Charles Manson a Mexican?

Chula Vista 07-24-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1618627)
I'm aware of that, I'm not sure why it's in a Donald trump thread though. Was Charles Manson a Mexican?

Machine: Killing Angels

5150: Charlies Angels

Common theme: Angels.

You up to speed?

Frownland 07-24-2015 12:35 PM

Oh ok.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/attachme...920-jpg.21594/

Machine 07-24-2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1618634)

Real milestones have been reached today.

The Batlord 07-24-2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1618633)
Machine: Killing Angels

5150: Charlies Angels

Common theme: Angels.

You up to speed?


JWB: Killer Angels


http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1355371689l/682804.jpg

Chula Vista 07-24-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1618639)
JWB: Killer Angels

Circle jerk alert.

http://www.musicbanter.com/current-e...ag-debate.html

FRED HALE SR. 07-24-2015 04:43 PM

**** Donald Trump and his faux hair.

Chula Vista 07-25-2015 08:27 PM

https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...8e&oe=563FCA9C

:tramp:

John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 10:35 AM




i think he's serious.

E5I5O 07-29-2015 05:33 PM


Frownland 07-29-2015 05:40 PM

^Another reason to love Rollins.

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1620384)

*facedesk*

Wow. Is she serious?

Chula Vista 07-29-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1620384)

i think he's serious.

Donald Trump 2016: Sarah Palin for cabinet post, he says - POLITICO

seriously nuts if he'd really do this

Frownland 07-29-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1620504)

Most. Misleading. Headline. Ever.

E5I5O 07-29-2015 06:07 PM

@ batlord


John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1620502)
^Another reason to love Rollins.



*facedesk*

Wow. Is she serious?

about what, specifically?

John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1620504)

lol trump is a pimp

John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 07:00 PM

also, ann coulter is way more entertaining and smart than henry rollins.

Frownland 07-29-2015 07:04 PM

The majority of her thoughts on immigration. Also her rich lady voice/laughing at her own jokes. I had a professor who did that **** (might as well note that she was topically ridiculous in the other direction at times). We have surveys at the end of the year where we anonymously rate the course and professor, and on mine the only comment I put was 'it is obnoxious as **** to laugh at every single one of your own jokes'.

@the Rollins comment, I'm not sure I can trust you if you find that lady more entertaining than Black Flag.

John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1620520)
The majority of her thoughts on immigration.

oh. yea i'd say she is. i think i've hinted at this before, but the right are banking on the current xenophobic/racist sentiments that many conservative americans still express... it's a now or never issue for them. the demographics are only going to continue to change against their interests.. basically the left acknowledged this last time we had a presidential election, even npr was talking about how the conservatives can't bank on anti immigration rhetoric as the demographics continue to change in a way that is going to make that a bad strategy... i guess ann & trump (and probably palin and cruz as well) figure that they have a better shot at stirring up the current xenophobia and anti-illegal immigrant sentiments and getting their base riled up enough to get themselves in and maybe reverse/do something about said demographic trends than they do at actually flipping their image and 'pursuing the latino vote' by playing it soft on immigration.

...say, guys, when trump gets elected, am i going to get some sort of prize for calling this **** before any of you mouth breathers?

John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1620520)
@the Rollins comment, I'm not sure I can trust you if you find that lady more entertaining than Black Flag.

i find her trolling entertaining... usually i take it in via youtube in small doses... she can get boring after a while... sort of like bacon

plus she's better looking than him

plus punk rock is ****

E5I5O 07-29-2015 07:43 PM

I'll bet she is.... even Henry Rollins would say so ;)

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You edit bitch, you changed that. And you know why.

John Wilkes Booth 07-29-2015 08:15 PM

no idea what isisbeard is talking about

William_the_Bloody 07-29-2015 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1620522)
oh. yea i'd say she is. i think i've hinted at this before, but the right are banking on the current xenophobic/racist sentiments that many conservative americans still express... it's a now or never issue for them. the demographics are only going to continue to change against their interests.. basically the left acknowledged this last time we had a presidential election, even npr was talking about how the conservatives can't bank on anti immigration rhetoric as the demographics continue to change in a way that is going to make that a bad strategy... i guess ann & trump (and probably palin and cruz as well) figure that they have a better shot at stirring up the current xenophobia and anti-illegal immigrant sentiments and getting their base riled up enough to get themselves in and maybe reverse/do something about said demographic trends than they do at actually flipping their image and 'pursuing the latino vote' by playing it soft on immigration.

...say, guys, when trump gets elected, am i going to get some sort of prize for calling this **** before any of you mouth breathers?

Granted I would never bother to read anything by Ann Coulter let alone listen to her speak, but I must take issue with your comment on relying on the racist xenophobic sentiment within the republican party.

Your country has been having historic high rates of immigration for the last two decades, so if 77% of the Republican base happen to be deeply concerned about immigration, than I think that it's just natural.

The left always likes to frame immigration within the context of cultural diversity, which I can sympathize with, but unfortunately unlike say abortion or gay marriage, the issue is not soley cultural, but rather predominately economic.

There are several studies that show that unfettered immigration has an adverse effect of the wages of unskilled labor & the working class. So if it is a concern amongst many blue collar Republicans as well as a large % of democrats, than it may be warranted sentiment.

John Wilkes Booth 07-30-2015 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1620578)
There are several studies that show that unfettered immigration has an adverse effect of the wages of unskilled labor & the working class. So if it is a concern amongst many blue collar Republicans as well as a large % of democrats, than it may be warranted sentiment.

i've heard people on the left claim the opposite. i've be honest and say i don't know that much about the economics... so feel free to go ahead and share those studies with me.

but i stand by my comment on trump & co tapping into xenophobia. that's not the same as saying there's no legitimate issue to be had with immigration... i just know rabble rousing when i see it, i can tell it by its tone. so i'm calling a spade a spade.

i mean the basic picture that ann paints is that the democrats (specifically ted kennedy or whoever) passed an immigration bill in the 60's for the sole purpose of changing the racial demographics of the country because this would be favorable for democrats... she talks about how the left glorifies the 'browning of america,' and to a certain extent she's correct about that. but in pointing all of this out, clearly they are worried about more than just economics. we've been hearing 'warnings' about whites becoming a minority in this country for decades now. there's simply no way to spin that kind of rhetoric as being about working class jobs or economics... they're weary of demographic changes as well. once again, that's not to say that there aren't any economic concerns, and i'm open to hearing those. but it doesn't negate the cultural aspect of the issue.

same with me saying the leftist media takes a lot of trump's statements and disects them/amplifies them to broadcast the message that "trump calls illegal immigrants mostly rapists" or some **** like that... i see that as a dishonest media tactic, since that's really an exaggeration of the message he was attempting to send... even though at the same time i know trump was being purposely inflammatory and preying on xenophobic and racist sentiments.

John Wilkes Booth 07-30-2015 12:30 AM

also ann coulter >>>> john stewart, stephen colbert, & bill mahr combined

William_the_Bloody 07-30-2015 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1620581)
i've heard people on the left claim the opposite. i've be honest and say i don't know that much about the economics... so feel free to go ahead and share those studies with me.

but i stand by my comment on trump & co tapping into xenophobia. that's not the same as saying there's no legitimate issue to be had with immigration... i just know rabble rousing when i see it, i can tell it by its tone. so i'm calling a spade a spade.

i mean the basic picture that ann paints is that the democrats (specifically ted kennedy or whoever) passed an immigration bill in the 60's for the sole purpose of changing the racial demographics of the country because this would be favorable for democrats... she talks about how the left glorifies the 'browning of america,' and to a certain extent she's correct about that. but in pointing all of this out, clearly they are worried about more than just economics. we've been hearing 'warnings' about whites becoming a minority in this country for decades now. there's simply no way to spin that kind of rhetoric as being about working class jobs or economics... they're weary of demographic changes as well. once again, that's not to say that there aren't any economic concerns, and i'm open to hearing those. but it doesn't negate the cultural aspect of the issue.

same with me saying the leftist media takes a lot of trump's statements and disects them/amplifies them to broadcast the message that "trump calls illegal immigrants mostly rapists" or some **** like that... i see that as a dishonest media tactic, since that's really an exaggeration of the message he was attempting to send... even though at the same time i know trump was being purposely inflammatory and preying on xenophobic and racist sentiments.

I see, although I do not respect Coulter enough to read or listen to her opinions I am familiar with other conservative writers who touch on the cultural issue of immigration.

One could argue that the cultural aspect of immigration & race crosses over into economics when white people start worrying about being economically displaced by other ethnic groups. (A building contract going to a firm that employs cheaper Hispanic labour, a white guy not being called back for a return day on the job as a minority on a worksite ect. )

I imagine that would be the cultural fear that they are tapping into it, as I can't forsee people galvanizing together because they miss seeing Christmas lights in every neighborhood or classic rock being played at every bar, but I live in Canada not the States, so who knows.

If Ann Coulter thinks that the Democrats in the 60's passed the immigration bill because the browning of America would favor their party than she's an idiot. That is something a white supremacist like David Duke would believe.

I would however agree with other Conservatives like Rush Limbaugh that immigration from Mexico is primarily votes for the democratic party. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that, you just have to look at the historic polling data. Traditionally immigrants tend to favor parties that are pro immigration, and welfare state because it suits their interests. The Irish & Italian were no different until they worked their way up the ladder.

I do to some extent understand what Ann is getting at though. There has been a concerted effort by the left to push multiculturalism and "mass" immigration through political correctness. When I was in University I had to take these elective courses on multiculturalism that made me examine my white privilege by unpacking my invisible white knapsack and identifying why Eurocentric films like Lord of the Rings were harmful in today's culturally diverse society. It was f'n weird $hit lol, but whatever, I just went along with it and got an A.

Again for me I don't really care about the cultural aspect of immigration. If someone said to me tomorrow that erasing the Mexican border will increase my life expectancy by 10 years and improve my retirement savings plan, I would be like fu(kin A, where do I sign up.

I don't have any links to provide you off hand, but there is a lot of evidence on the subject. My favourite liberal economist Paul Krugman wrote an article on immigration and the downward pressure of wages for unskilled labour a while back, should be easy to find on the net.

E5I5O 07-30-2015 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1620534)
no idea what isisbeard is talking about

typical response


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