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Chula Vista 06-17-2016 01:13 PM

Interesting article here:

Trump, His Virus and the Dark Age of Unreason

Chula Vista 06-17-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711209)
No man stop just stop. Its like talking to a wall

Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.

djchameleon 06-17-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711067)
Im actually not for amending the bill of rights 1-10.The ones that protect us from our government. "The people should not be afraid of its government the government should be afraid of it's people."

I want to take away the second amendment just to piss off a whole bunch of people including you Roxy. I'm coming to take your guns. Ban all guns.

Chula Vista 06-17-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1711248)
I want to take away the second amendment just to piss off a whole bunch of people including you Roxy. I'm coming to take your guns. Ban all guns.

Saw this on a friend's timeline this morning. So appropriate.

https://scontent.fsan1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...a4&oe=57CEAB55

Frownland 06-17-2016 02:22 PM

"Derr gon tek err guns" is pure NRA propaganda too. All everyone wants is some ****ing regulation.

Zhanteimi 06-17-2016 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1711259)
Saw this on a friend's timeline this morning.

You use Facebook. Things are starting to make sense about you.

Chula Vista 06-17-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1711270)
You use Facebook. Things are starting to make sense about you.

Which means.......

Linda and I have family and friends back in Boston, and Chicago, as well as all over the planet based on my 6 years running a Shawn Lane forum. It's a great way to stay in touch.

kibbeh 06-17-2016 05:58 PM

once my sociology professor (who is canadian) was telling me about how uncomfortable he felt whenever he was in the US because of the whole guns thing. and it makes total sense to be uncomfortable in a country where you could be a victim of a shooting in almost any public place honestly if people want guns to 'protect' themselves???? what is there to protect yourself from if nobody has guns????

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 06-17-2016 05:58 PM

Your professor sounds awesome.

kibbeh 06-17-2016 06:02 PM

why? cause he from the canada?

djchameleon 06-17-2016 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1711310)
once my sociology professor (who is canadian) was telling me about how uncomfortable he felt whenever he was in the US because of the whole guns thing. and it makes total sense to be uncomfortable in a country where you could be a victim of a shooting in almost any public place honestly if people want guns to 'protect' themselves???? what is there to protect yourself from if nobody has guns????

how are you going to ensure that nobody has guns in this late stage of the game? It is way to hard to get rid of all guns and because we have Mexico to the south smuggling guns in that perfect scenario won't ever likely happen.

You can be a victim of violence in any country. A crazy person can sneak up behind you and slit your throat. He's making it out to be a bigger deal than it is because he's afraid to live his life. The US isn't anymore dangerous than any other country.

Stephen 06-17-2016 06:49 PM

What possible legitimate justification is there for anyone to own a semi automatic weapon? I read that sales of the type used in Orlando had jumped from 2 a day to 10 a day. Even at 2 a day that's 520 people a year armed with semi automatic rifles. To that I say WTF America? How is that desirable or even acceptable to you?

djchameleon 06-17-2016 06:51 PM

There are conspiracy nuts that want to arm themselves so that they can "fight" against the government when things go wrong.

They feel like they will be able to form a militia and stand up against the government if it ever came down to it. Which would be so hilarious. The army would **** up every single militia with ease in a few tanks and not even. Just send some drones and destroy their weapon supply and get rid of any resistance with ease.

kibbeh 06-17-2016 06:52 PM

if someone comes up from behind you and slits your throat... a gun won't really help you.

djchameleon 06-17-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1711338)
if someone comes up from behind you and slits your throat... a gun won't really help you.

My point is that you aren't safe anywhere.

The point was that there are crazy people everywhere. It has nothing to do with guns and protecting yourself.

Stephen 06-17-2016 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1711338)
if someone comes up from behind you and slits your throat... a gun won't really help you.

Just means the throat slitter is now armed with your weapon to finish off your family.

I should point out that 10 a day sales figure was from a single store so multiply that by however many stores there are.

kibbeh 06-17-2016 06:57 PM

it has EVERYTHING to do with guns. less guns = less death. simple as that. its ridiculous when people claim it has nothing to do with guns.

i'm not saying everybody would be perfectly safe and there would be 0 violence and crime without guns. but people would just be much safer without guns and that is a fact.

guns are DESIGNED to KILL. its simple.

djchameleon 06-17-2016 06:57 PM

Good guys need guns to protect themselves and others from the bad guys. Bad guys don't just go to stores and pick up their weapons. Well some do but they usually don't.


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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1711342)
it has EVERYTHING to do with guns. less guns = less death. simple as that. its ridiculous when people claim it has nothing to do with guns.

i'm not saying everybody would be perfectly safe and there would be 0 violence and crime without guns. but people would just be much safer without guns and that is a fact.

You still ignored my question. How will you go about getting rid of these guns to create an environment where , there are less guns? Nobody seems to have an answer for that.

They are just always, less guns = less death. Yeah in an ideal scenario but how are you realistically going to reduce the amount of guns that are currently out there, especially at the rate that Stephen said people are buying guns?

kibbeh 06-17-2016 07:04 PM

so the right thing to do is to just let people keep buying guns and shooting up innocent people?

i understand your point about people possessing guns illegally and it happens A LOT where i'm from. especially since the syrian civil war started, theres been spillover in lebanon especially in tripoli and theres a LOT of illegal arms dealers there. you see little kids walking around with guns its ****ing ridiculous.

djchameleon 06-17-2016 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pansy gayboy 69 (Post 1711344)
so the right thing to do is to just let people keep buying guns and shooting up innocent people?

I certainly don't have the answers. Sure I want stricter gun laws but I just don't know how they will accomplish it. The stand up citizens that are acquiring guns will have a harder time getting them while criminals and people that want to do illegal stuff will still keep getting them the same way as before.

RoxyRollah 06-17-2016 08:21 PM

Strict gun control laws aint gonna do nothin homie I can go buy an AR rite na across the street for 100 bucks aint got no clip but sheeeyot can still buy it off the black market just like the drug ban has done nothin.

RoxyRollah 06-17-2016 08:23 PM

Just wanna say this...gays with fire arms dont get bashed.
2 the point of the second amendment is to be as well armed as your government. Thats why.And America and the Swiss are gun cultures...disarming the people is impossible.

Stephen 06-17-2016 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711364)
the point of the second amendment is to be as well armed as your government.

That's pretty ****ed up right there. If you're so paranoid of your government that you need to stay heavily armed it doesn't say much for democracy.

RoxyRollah 06-17-2016 08:56 PM

How is that ****ed up. It was written because we were under oppressive rule by the English and the framers wanted to make sure that never happened again. Are you suggesting that governments dont go tyrannical?....Russia, Cuba, China, Italy, Germany? Why is the big bad west exsempt from this type of tyranny?

Chula Vista 06-17-2016 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711364)
2nd, the point of the second amendment is to be as well armed as your government.

Are you serious? The greatest civilian militia possible in this modern age would be squashed withing hours. Stop being paranoid of YOUR government.

http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/ima...7522734_20.jpg

http://cdn.wonderfulengineering.com/...er-798x350.jpg

http://www.navysealfoundation.org/wp...sault__16_.jpg


vs. This?


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ZZ3755D6D7.jpg

In this day and age the 2nd amendment, read literally, is a bigger joke than you accusing me of being an out of touch aging liberal.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711367)
Why is the big bad west exempt from this type of tyranny?

You need professional help. Obamacare covers psychiatric sessions you know.

Stephen 06-17-2016 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711367)
Why is the big bad west exsempt from this type of tyranny?

I guess this is the donald trump 4 prez thread. :ar_15s:

djchameleon 06-17-2016 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1711373)
Are you serious? The greatest civilian militia possible in this modern age would be squashed withing hours. Stop being paranoid of YOUR government.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e64f986b99.jpg


vs. This?


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ZZ3755D6D7.jpg

More like this fixed.

The Batlord 06-18-2016 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1711334)
What possible legitimate justification is there for anyone to own a semi automatic weapon? I read that sales of the type used in Orlando had jumped from 2 a day to 10 a day. Even at 2 a day that's 520 people a year armed with semi automatic rifles. To that I say WTF America? How is that desirable or even acceptable to you?

I imagine the vast majority of semi-auto sales are for handguns, not rifles.

Stephen 06-18-2016 03:19 AM

I suppose on the plus side Trump getting elected could kick off a new golden age of punk.

Zhanteimi 06-18-2016 03:32 AM

Wait. Isn't it against the law for the United States armed forces to be deployed on American soil? Isn't this to ensure that the government can't use its armed forces against the citizenry?

RoxyRollah 06-18-2016 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1711373)
Are you serious? The greatest civilian militia possible in this modern age would be squashed withing hours. Stop being paranoid of YOUR government.

http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/ima...7522734_20.jpg

http://cdn.wonderfulengineering.com/...er-798x350.jpg

http://www.navysealfoundation.org/wp...sault__16_.jpg


vs. This?


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...ZZ3755D6D7.jpg

In this day and age the 2nd amendment, read literally, is a bigger joke than you accusing me of being an out of touch aging liberal.



You need professional help. Obamacare covers psychiatric sessions you know.

I actually have insurence and I dont need his screwjob. Thanks. Also they fined me 200 for not having insurance when I do, and did at the time...Again all these statements coming from the liberal who is loving and tolerant yet bashs my beliefs every chance he can while secretly wanting to bone me is really obnoxious. Stop taking your misconceptions on what the government can do and has done to her people out on me. Go to a Hillary Clinton ralley if you can afford it and have a juice box.


Don. Nobody was speaking to you.

I warned you. You and I having conversations is as usless as tits on a bull.


I dont like big government. Get that trough that libtard brain of yours....


Also don't you have some balls...Don't, you of all people the king of psychotropics tell me to see someone. My mental health is fine. I dont agree with you on your poltics.I couldn't even if I tried. Because you simply have no idea what tolerence actually is...But if you ever come at me again telling me you think Im crazy Imma ram every single one of YOUR MEDS that you actually take down your throat.

Also you didn't even read what the **** I wrote you tit I said what the point of the second amendment was. Thats the actually point of it. Nowhere did I say they didn't have bigger and badder weaponry then the people. No where. So again this is your last warning next time Im going to litterally eviscerate your post an unload with both barrells because you just dont seem to know how not to **** with me on certain things. So apprently I need to get you to stop attacking my beliefs. Big government sucks. Ok. They dont want to help you.They see you as a unit. Not a human being. Trust me.

RoxyRollah 06-18-2016 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1711405)
Wait. Isn't it against the law for the United States armed forces to be deployed on American soil? Isn't this to ensure that the government can't use its armed forces against the citizenry?

I believe so yes.

Lilja 06-18-2016 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1711405)
Wait. Isn't it against the law for the United States armed forces to be deployed on American soil? Isn't this to ensure that the government can't use its armed forces against the citizenry?

Like any law, there are cases where exceptions can be made. In this case, if you are referring to the Posse Comitatus Act, the goverment can decide to involve the armed forces if one of these happens:

"A sudden and unexpected civil disturbance, disaster, or calamity may seriously endanger life and property and disrupt normal governmental functions to such an extent that local authorities cannot control the situation. "

"When the need for the protection of federal property or federal functions exists, and duly constituted local authorities are unable to, or decline to provide adequate protection, federal action, including the use of military forces, is authorized."

Is it the US president who decides when your Constitution is infringed on? In the end, No. Actually it is your military. For some reason, that strikes me as funny.

RoxyRollah 06-18-2016 04:12 AM

Alot of things are funny here whats your point.

One would think the military would be used to stop the government from doing terrible things to its people.

RoxyRollah 06-18-2016 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1711248)
I want to take away the second amendment just to piss off a whole bunch of people including you Roxy. I'm coming to take your guns. Ban all guns.

Because you know Im secretly a bigot. I know.

Lilja 06-18-2016 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711410)
Alot of things are funny here whats your point.

One would think the military would be used to stop the government from doing terrible things to its people.

I was replying to the previous person's question. Not really trying to make a point.

I found it funny that the military can pretty much interpret the Constitution, rather than relying on the government to do so. Essentially, they could declare martial law whenever they see fit.

RoxyRollah 06-18-2016 06:24 AM

Yes. But its not called martial law any more. Its called civil emergency. And thats why we again have the secknd amendment. So if they come a knocking with black bags for your head you have at least a fighiting chance.

Chula Vista 06-18-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711406)
I actually have insurence and I dont need his screwjob. Thanks. Also they fined me 200 for not having insurance when I do, and did at the time...Again all these statements coming from the liberal who is loving and tolerant yet bashs my beliefs every chance he can while secretly wanting to bone me is really obnoxious.

My wanting to bone you days are long gone. That honeymoon wore off about a year ago. I wouldn't say no to a naked boob pic though.

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Stop taking your misconceptions on what the government can do and has done to her people out on me. Go to a Hillary Clinton ralley if you can afford it and have a juice box.
Make it a Yahoo box and we have a deal.

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Get that trough that libtard brain of yours....
Come on. Don't go there. You're bigger than that.

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But if you ever come at me again telling me you think Im crazy Imma ram every single one of YOUR MEDS that you actually take down your throat.
First boning and now ramming down a throat? Someone's feeling musky. Meow.

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So again this is your last warning next time Im going to litterally eviscerate your post an unload with both barrells because you just dont seem to know how not to **** with me on certain things.
Come on, admit it. Us ****ing with each other makes the internet a lot less boring.

Lilja 06-18-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1711419)
Yes. But its not called martial law any more. Its called civil emergency. And thats why we again have the secknd amendment. So if they come a knocking with black bags for your head you have at least a fighiting chance.

You realize your constitutional rights are suspended if the military took over, right?

RoxyRollah 06-18-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1711460)
My wanting to bone you days are long gone. That honeymoon wore off about a year ago. I wouldn't say no to a naked boob pic though.



Make it a Yahoo box and we have a deal.



Come on. Don't go there. You're bigger than that.



First boning and now ramming down a throat? Someone's feeling musky. Meow.



Come on, admit it. Us ****ing with each other makes the internet a lot less boring.

No really you've really really antagonized the **** outta me and I ain't having it.Anymore.


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