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William_the_Bloody 08-05-2016 11:21 AM

Yep. This is election is pretty much a wash at this point. Even if Trump can contain himself between now and November the damage has been done.

His erratic behavior has shown the general public that he cannot engage with people rationally, let alone bring his own party together.

This might sound odd, but i actually feel sorry for him, there is obviously some mental health issues at play. When I was growing up he was a household name, but after this election, his legacy will most likely crumble, as he becomes a laughing stock to be endlessly poked fun of on late night tv. I think it will probably destroy him, someone should have stopped him from entering into politics, and if possible, someone should get him to step down while he still can.

Key 08-05-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1726616)

This might sound odd, but i actually feel sorry for him, there is obviously some mental health issues at play.

It's got nothing to do with that. He knows exactly what people want to hear and he knows what will attract the media so he's using that to his advantage. He's basically getting votes based off his erratic behavior, which is bs.

Blank. 08-05-2016 12:14 PM

Have you guys seen the "seizures" from Hilary. There are some mental health conspiracy rolling around from that.

Frownland 08-05-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1726660)
Have you guys seen the "seizures" from Hilary. There are some mental health conspiracy rolling around from that.

That's not what I heard them say. She's just uncomfortable from the bullshit building up in her insides.

Key 08-05-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1726668)
That's not what I heard them say. She's just uncomfortable from the bullshit building up in her insides.

Must be all those darn emails.

Blank. 08-05-2016 12:20 PM

Lol

William_the_Bloody 08-05-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1726658)
It's got nothing to do with that. He knows exactly what people want to hear and he knows what will attract the media so he's using that to his advantage. He's basically getting votes based off his erratic behavior, which is bs.

Well I have to respectfully disagree with that.

Although I agree he's tapped into some policy issues that are important to many working people, (in which both parties were previously on the same page on, hence his appeal), I think his lack of impulse control, & erratic behavior is turning people off.

No, I can't see him winning at all, the question is, how badly will he lose, will it be a Clinton landslide?

Key 08-05-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1726740)
I think his lack of impulse control, & erratic behavior is turning people off.

No, I can't see him winning at all, the question is, how badly will he lose, will it be a Clinton landslide?

Well yeah, especially since most of the republican party, or at least the bigger names in the republican party are urging people not to vote for him. Mitt Romney had a really good speech on it and although I don't vote republican, him and Ted Cruz both had a lot to say about him.


Janszoon 08-05-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1726616)
Yep. This is election is pretty much a wash at this point. Even if Trump can contain himself between now and November the damage has been done.

His erratic behavior has shown the general public that he cannot engage with people rationally, let alone bring his own party together.

This might sound odd, but i actually feel sorry for him, there is obviously some mental health issues at play. When I was growing up he was a household name, but after this election, his legacy will most likely crumble, as he becomes a laughing stock to be endlessly poked fun of on late night tv. I think it will probably destroy him, someone should have stopped him from entering into politics, and if possible, someone should get him to step down while he still can.

I don't feel bad for him at all. I hope he suffers an enourmous, embarrassing defeat and his brand is permanently tainted. The man is a dickhole.

Key 08-05-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1726777)
I don't feel bad for him at all. I hope he suffers an enourmous, embarrassing defeat and his brand is permanently tainted. The man is a dickhole.

And I'd record it and put it on Youtube.

William_the_Bloody 08-05-2016 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1726741)
Well yeah, especially since most of the republican party, or at least the bigger names in the republican party are urging people not to vote for him. Mitt Romney had a really good speech on it and although I don't vote republican, him and Ted Cruz both had a lot to say about him.


I couldn't watch the video (not viewed for Canada) but I think I've seen the Romney speech before.

This is part of the reason he will lose, he doesn't have the full backing of key Republicans that could mobilize the ground forces in the States required to win. (Particularly, Ohio, Wisconsin, and some key figures in Florida)

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1726777)
I don't feel bad for him at all. I hope he suffers an enourmous, embarrassing defeat and his brand is permanently tainted. The man is a dickhole.

Lol, you and many people I know. I do feel he has a personality disorder though, the Atlantic did a good article on it.

A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump

djchameleon 08-06-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1726818)

This is part of the reason he will lose, he doesn't have the full backing of key Republicans that could mobilize the ground forces in the States required to win. (Particularly, Ohio, Wisconsin, and some key figures in Florida)

The main reason he picked Mike Pence was to help with that. Mike is the establishment Republican to help him mobilize those states.

Key 08-06-2016 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1726825)
The main reason he picked Mike Pence was to help with that. Mike is the establishment Republican to help him mobilize those states.

Which won't happen. Both parties want Trump out of the picture.

djchameleon 08-06-2016 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1726830)
Which won't happen. Both parties want Trump out of the picture.

Yeah but they have a hard-on for Pence. Pence has done a lot of good within the Republican party and he's buddy buddy with Paul Ryan and a couple of key folks within the Republican party.

Key 08-06-2016 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1726832)
Yeah but they have a hard-on for Pence. Pence has done a lot of good within the Republican party and he's buddy buddy with Paul Ryan and a couple of key folks within the Republican party.

Probably. I wish Kasich still had a chance. He seemed to fit more to my liking without actually causing me to change my political beliefs. However, we get what we're stuck with and either way...the country is ****ed.

William_the_Bloody 08-06-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1726825)
The main reason he picked Mike Pence was to help with that. Mike is the establishment Republican to help him mobilize those states.

Doesn't matter, Key Republicans are already sitting on the sidelines and polls show he is doing poorly in the midwest right now, which was his strategy to win.

I've been thinking about this a lot so; Trump can't win for the following reasons.

1. Democrat majority:

Trump's utopian card is to turn back the clock to happier times, the only problem is that it's no longer the 1980's, and the silent majority is now Democrat. Independent voters now identify more with the Democrat Party giving Hillary Clinton a 10% jump in party identity at the polls.

2. Florida

If you look at the interactive map below, Hillary already has a good 26 point lead on the electoral college map, all she really has to do is win Florida and hold the blue wall (mid west, north east) and she's won.

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map

In order for Trump to win Florida, he has to get the white vote out at a percentage even higher than Romney did. (which was pretty high) The problem is, that this will most likely be offset by the loss of Cuban voters who traditionally vote republican (I can't imagine that they are supercharged to go out and vote for Trump). Polls also show that he is losing the support of college educated whites in this State, which have also traditionally voted Republican.

If Hillary wins Florida this election is more or less over.

3. Trump's strategy (the rust belt)

Trump has dumped the electoral strategy of the last three Republican nominees (Bush, McCain, Romney); trying to win the election by holding the red states, while capturing enough Hispanic votes to flip the swing states, for an alternate strategy; get the white vote out.

There is a theory out there that if Romney had just gotten the white vote a little higher, he would have won in 2012, so Trump has dumped the old strategy in order to get poor disenfranchised whites to the voting booth, and where are there a lot of these disenfranchised whites; the rust belt.

Trump's grand plan then is to flip the blue states that have been described as the United States Brexit, (the mid west & north east) which are filled with disillusioned white voters who use to vote Democrat, and while Trump was previously killing Hillary in the polls amongst blue collar white workers, he's been bleeding everywhere else, and now there are signs that they are turning away from him to. The latest swing state polling is not good for Trump.

He is currently getting crushed in Pennsylvania, Michigan and New Hampshire, losing in Iowa and Wisconsin, and in a tie in Ohio.

3. Republican support

For a man who has stated he's a great unifier that gets along with everybody, he sure hasn't been able to unify his party. Here are key people he's missing.

John Kasich (Ohio) Next to Florida this is the most important state in the election, so you would want the support of its Republican governor to get the ground forces operating during an election, but John Kasich can't decide if he'll vote for him, let alone endorse him.

Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio: (Florida) Trump may have the support of the current governor but he only has the token support of Rubio at best, and well...the Bush family skipped the convention.

Scott Walker/Paul Ryan: (Wisconsin) One of the states Trump has been targeting to flip. His relationship with these two have been rocky at best. Walker dropped out of the race to open it up so someone could defeat Trump, and the Wisconsin Republicans made sure he wouldn't win the state during the primaries.

4. Weak Democratic nominee

Normally this would work in favor of a Republican candidate, but not for Trump. So many of the key players are sitting on the sidelines right now, because disassociating yourself with Trump, puts you in an opportune spot to start campaigning for 2020 when he loses.

In fairness to Trump, it's not just his confrontational behavior that's caused a riff in the Republican Party, but his policies. The Republican establishment doesn't like Trump because he is a nationalist not a conservative. His appeal to white working class voters means he won't consider privatizing or cutting social security or medicaid, something that fiscal conservatives and libertarians want done. If he wins, the whole Republican platform would be changed, and the Koch brothers would be SOL.

If the election was currently held today according to the most recent polling data, the results would be 342 Democrats/196 Republicans. That's worse than Romney, but not as bad as McCain.

Damn!, Damn, Damn, Damn! I told myself I would stay away, but I can't help myself when it comes to analyzing music and politics.

Chula Vista 08-06-2016 12:56 PM

Great post!

William_the_Bloody 08-07-2016 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1726926)
Great post!

Thanks just calling it how I see it. I think I will retract my comments on feeling sorry for him for having mental health issues/personality disorder.

It's hard to separate the childhood Trump you knew from the reality of the person today, a corrupt narcissist whose had continued dealings with shady people in the New York and Russian mafia to advance his financial and political career.

I never thought I would say this...but Jeb Bush would be better than Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...aec_story.html

Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob? - POLITICO Magazine

Exploring Russian ties to the men lurking behind Trump | TheHill

William_the_Bloody 08-09-2016 03:00 PM

God, what an utter buffoon! It's like he can't help himself. I wonder how long it takes before the rats jump off the sinking ship.

Donald Trump: Stop Hillary Clinton With

The Batlord 08-09-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1727934)
God, what an utter buffoon! It's like he can't help himself. I wonder how long it takes before the rats jump off the sinking ship.

Donald Trump: Stop Hillary Clinton With

I don't know about beforehand, but I think that campaigning like he has been, with so many stops with crowds of thousands being all about him and not about anybody else, might have warped his perception that nobody else but the people at his rallies thinks like they do. He might have had an actual break with reality, even if isn't actually psychological.

William_the_Bloody 08-09-2016 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1727935)
I don't know about beforehand, but I think that campaigning like he has been, with so many stops with crowds of thousands being all about him and not about anybody else, might have warped his perception that nobody else but the people at his rallies thinks like they do. He might have had an actual break with reality, even if isn't actually psychological.

I think your right, all the adoration he gets from his supporters much be a wet dream for a narcissist like Trump, he's in his own little world up there.

His rallies really risk turning into a clown show at this point. When I watch him speak to his supporters, it's like he's talking to people with an IQ below 80. It's insulting to listen to, but he's probably thinking "they love me, they love me."

Guys like Chris Christie, Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani must be clamoring for an exit strategy.

OccultHawk 08-09-2016 07:53 PM

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His rallies really risk turning into a clown show at this point.
You don't think that already happened months ago?

William_the_Bloody 08-09-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1728116)
You don't think that already happened months ago?

No, I understand your viewpoint of the raucous crowds in all, but it will become a clown show (a joke) when his support dwindles down to a few hardcore followers who are...lets be kind...unaware that his chance at the Presidency is net zero.

I already think that he has lost the Presidency, but at the rate he is going, it could be a wipe out for Clinton. The latest polls have him losing traditional Republican states in North Carolina and Georgia.

OccultHawk 08-09-2016 09:46 PM

Let's hope so. I'm afraid to count the chickens before they hatch.

Chula Vista 08-09-2016 10:39 PM

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What a ****ing idiot. Worst job in the world? A Trump campaign worker.

Frownland 08-09-2016 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1727934)
God, what an utter buffoon! It's like he can't help himself. I wonder how long it takes before the rats jump off the sinking ship.

Donald Trump: Stop Hillary Clinton With

I saw this being reported on local news today with the headline "Is Trump Calling for Hillary's Assassination?" and discussed whether or not it was a serious death threat. With straight faces. For a whole fivish minute segment on the story. I'm going to go kill myself we've all become so stupid.

Tristan_Geoff 08-09-2016 11:46 PM

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Janszoon 08-10-2016 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1728172)
I saw this being reported on local news today with the headline "Is Trump Calling for Hillary's Assassination?" and discussed whether or not it was a serious death threat. With straight faces. For a whole fivish minute segment on the story. I'm going to go kill myself we've all become so stupid.

Which is the stupid part? The idea that people take anything Trump says seriously?

William_the_Bloody 08-10-2016 03:31 PM

At present we are heading for a Clinton landslide in the polls. The Buffoon's incompetency knows know bounds!!!

Looking at the latest polls and using the interactive map we are heading for the biggest electoral defeat since 1996 when Clinton beat Dole with Ross Perot splitting the vote.

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map

Right now were looking at 374 to 164, but this is without knowing the polls of some solid red states yet. Could Texas, or South Carolina or Missouri flip?

How far down will The Buffoon drag the Republican Party in the polls. I must admit as a political geek, this is most exciting!!! Get it together Buffoon.

djchameleon 08-10-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1728172)
I saw this being reported on local news today with the headline "Is Trump Calling for Hillary's Assassination?" and discussed whether or not it was a serious death threat. With straight faces. For a whole fivish minute segment on the story. I'm going to go kill myself we've all become so stupid.

He basically called for her assassination and he wasn't even mildly joking. He even went so far as to back up his statements.

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1728427)
At present we are heading for a Clinton landslide in the polls. The Buffoon's incompetency knows know bounds!!!

Looking at the latest polls and using the interactive map we are heading for the biggest electoral defeat since 1996 when Clinton beat Dole with Ross Perot splitting the vote.

2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map

Right now were looking at 374 to 164, but this is without knowing the polls of some solid red states yet. Could Texas, or South Carolina or Missouri flip?

How far down will The Buffoon drag the Republican Party in the polls. I must admit as a political geek, this is most exciting!!! Get it together Buffoon.

I would laugh my ass off if some how he was able to pull out a clutch win!
He would end up being the president that we deserve for being so stupid.

The Batlord 08-10-2016 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1728470)
He basically called for her assassination and he wasn't even mildly joking. He even went so far as to back up his statements.



I would laugh my ass off if some how he was able to pull out a clutch win!
He would end up being the president that we deserve for being so stupid.

If nothing else this is the election we deserve. I just miss the guy from the The Rent Is Too Damn High Party.


Frownland 08-10-2016 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1728470)
He basically called for her assassination and he wasn't even mildly joking. He even went so far as to back up his statements.

Haha no dude. Absolutely not.

William_the_Bloody 08-10-2016 08:41 PM

Hey check this out, a crazy man tires to scale the Buffoon tower!!!


Police capture man who scaled NYC's Trump Tower using suction cups - World - CBC News



Quote: Police say a man who climbed partway up the facade of Trump Tower in New York City had posted a video online saying he did it because he wanted "a private audience" with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

In the video, the unidentified 20-year-old Virginia man says he's "an independent researcher" who wants to "discuss an important matter" with Trump.


What? A crazy person attracted to Donald Trump? How could this be? Trump has shown himself to be a man of such great temperament & sound character? How is this possible?

Hmmm, I wonder what the important issue was, perhaps it was to warn him that his tax returns show links to Russia, or maybe it's a secret plan that will show Trump how to win more than just the state of Idaho. Maybe Trump could actually win three States, Nebraska & Alaska to. Wow! That would be such a feat!!!

Two Spirit 08-11-2016 05:45 AM

Damn. His poll numbers are in the gutter. Clintons 48% to Trump's 40.3%. And he was actually ahead of her at the end of July. He ****ed up badly.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Goofle 08-11-2016 05:58 AM

A damn shame.

Key 08-11-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Spirit (Post 1728673)
Damn. His poll numbers are in the gutter. Clintons 48% to Trump's 40.3%. And he was actually ahead of her at the end of July. He ****ed up badly.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Are you really disappointed or are you being sarcastic? If you support Trump, you're a sad excuse for a human being and you should feel bad about supporting a racist, sexist, lunatic.

Frownland 08-11-2016 11:42 AM

inb4 people start shouting about Hillary as if third parties don't exist.

Janszoon 08-11-2016 12:21 PM

About Hillary as if third parties don't exist!

Frownland 08-11-2016 12:21 PM

Gonna need a video or audio clip of you shouting for me to believe you.

Frownland 08-11-2016 01:20 PM



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