:laughing: don't trust everything Bill Maher says. With that being said, never change, Franco.

I was under the impression that the Republicans had already been fairly difficult up to that point, with a majority house and a republican president.

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No I am telling the truth. most American conservatives are addicted to gay porn than liberals which is shocking but it also explains why they focus so much on homosexuality than any other topic. Most of them are closested since they have been taught that they will have no value if they say that they are publicly homosexual. This explains why some Conservatives end up ****ing young teens who are of the same sex. not but quite a few. Look at Newt Gringrich's second man Dennis Hastert. He was part of this. Trust me. Most American Conservatives are bunchy gay bastards who want to do more gay ****ing.

No that is not what I meant. I meant that as a novice politician. He should have pushed through his ideas right out of the gate while the Dems were in control of the house and Senate but nooo he spent time working across the isle trying to be a moderate and was slapped in the face for it.

I think that is all you saw were public statements here and there and you weren't paying attention to what was really going on. I also think you are mis remembering. He said that after being re-elected but not during his first term.

Ok. I can agree with that.

Trump calls for President Obama to resign after Orlando shooting

I'll take Hypocrisy for 400, Alex.

I think "feckless" is the word Trump is looking for, but if he tweeted it, his followers would be like hurr durr what's that mean?

Of course they had. I'm criticising Obama at the moment, but I am by no means a Repugnican (<recognized by spellcheck lol) apologist. I'm just not concentrating on them right now.

I think you're the one misremembering. I know he made some shallow attempts to reach out, but I imagine they were just for show so that he could go to the public and say, "Well I tried. What a bunch of dickbags."

And it was definitely during the early part of his first term that he went on blast against the Republicans. I clearly remember just waiting to see if he would live up to his promises to be a uniter and not a divider. I was not at all surprised by how he carried himself.

Can you remind me when this happened under Trumps watch? I must have missed his presidency.

I didn't think you were Republican, I just think that criticism of Obama doesn't really hold because at that point they had already made the point they wouldn't work with dems, particularly a a time they didn't need dem votes since they owned the house and office.

But this is all just impression as a Washington outsider

He's the president, not a whiny teenager. If congress is being a dick then he should have at the very least not gone out of his way to alienate them further by making tit-for-tat pot shots on tv. No matter how bad one side is the system still needs to function, and you don't just get to throw your hands up within five minutes and go, "Oh well, I tried."

You're going to have to fill me in on both that and whatever your point is here.

I don't remember that happening with him at all. What I remember is republicans promising to block anything he tried to do before he had even served a single day in office.

Well implying trump is a hypocrite when he's uhh not yet the president elect and Barry is the president.Not really fair he can state his opinions hes still a citizen.

Lol I see you've missed my point. Trump blabs on at end about political correctness gone mad blah blah blah they're thought policing and you can't say anything that you want for fear of being lambasted and all that. When he goes on to insinuate that not using a certain phrase is worth losing a presidency over, I can't help but smell irony. It's anti-political correctness gone mad.

I agree. To say a man should step down for sticking to his political beliefs is overkill. Every man is entitled to there opinions. So unless Obama is secretly a taco disguised as a human, he's got rights too.

Maybe it's a matter of threat assessment. Trump thinks the threat is from Muslims. Obama won't say "Islamic terrorism", so Trump thinks he has poor threat assessment. Obama is putting more lives in danger by not breaking from the narrative.*

*I'm not a Trump supporter. I think he's vile. But I'm just trying to give a possible explanation.

What harm comes from not saying Islamic terrorism I wonder?

Well, I don't think it has anything to do with causing harm. Trump thinks the president is in denial about the attacks. By not saying they are Islamic terrorism, he denies the reality to this. Making him an unfit leader in a war on Islamic terror.

Damn, in denial about attacks that he's addressing? That's some meta dada **** right there.

Lol. I mean in denial about the reasoning behind the attack.

Waiting until you have all the information before jumping to conclusions is a bad thing, apparently.

this 'war on terror' is a hoax. and is ****in useless. like the 'war on drugs'.

Get your point out better

Donald Trump: People who try to regulate language are bad
Donald Trump: Obama needs to change his language or resign as presiden

Curious to hear your guys opinions on this.

i think donald trump hates latinos because hes been trying to achieve that tanned/bronze/golden god look that a lot of latinos have naturally but ends up looking orange every time and he's just really bitter. i honestly think hes jealous. and has a small penis. i was discussing this with my father today actually and he agrees.

Donald Trump has assured us his penis is quite proportional.

That's actually quite consistent since I'm sure he would say that Obama is being PC.

If someone had made a comment using the term Islamic terrorism and they called for that person to resign, Trump would throw himself a hissy fit.

My guys? I don't have any guys.

I like how this is the default Clinton thread because no one likes her enough to have made a Clinton thread (or at least, no one likes her enough to keep it on the front page)

https://www.rt.com/usa/346534-wikile...n-assange-fbi/

I hear 'It's Great!".

There's a reason why there's a reluctance to label this "Islamic Terrorism".

The dude was a lone gunman. Not a member of ISIS, but a sympathizer based on his readings of internet sites. Label him an Islamic Terrorist and he becomes a martyr for the cause. Which will inspire more insane loonies to follow in his footsteps.

Downplay his ties and his actions carry a ton less "copycat" weight.

Trump is once again proving himself unfit to be president of this country based on his denouncement of the administrations strategy. He's already blown it since ISIS is probably plastering his recent statements throughout their network.

You are wrong^ 100% wrong. This was radical Islam killing Americans on our soil. They miss reported it for 6 hours in Fla. The only news I could get on it Sunday was the Uk daily mirror for hours. This was not a hate crime as much as it was an act of terror and treason. He bought these guns legally to do illegal things and we have known who he was and who is family was since 11 and big mangina clinton told them to back off. Why were several people cut off the news when they tried to tell what they saw down here? Hrmmm. You're wrong Don call it what it was.

I've read on the news just now that not only did he practice homosexuality, he also pledged allegiance to Hezbollah, ISIS, and Al Qaeda...which are all enemies of one another. Sounds like the perp didn't know what he wanted.

Homie Isis clamied responsibility for this.

Call it what is. They told us they were coming here and 6 other states.

I know ISIS claimed responsibility, and I'm not underestimating their reach and influence. I just think both explanations can be simultaneously accurate.

Btw the second amendment stays...

Fair enough. I just saw this in real time, this miss reporting on purpose. And I dont think shutting down our free speech is going to stop these attacks. I told you all it was gonna pop off this summer...you all said tin foil.