U.S. Supreme Court legalizes nationwide gay marriage - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge > Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
U.S. Supreme Court legalizes nationwide gay marriage U.S. Supreme Court legalizes nationwide gay marriage
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-30-2015, 06:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
Brain Licker
 
Xurtio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,083
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josef K View Post
Nope, wrong. As the others have said, whether you're cisgender has nothing to do with whom you're attracted to. It's about your gender identity. If you were designated male at birth - as I'm pretty sure you were - and you self-identify as male, then you're cis.


You aren't.
What I always wondered. Is a trans woman attracted to trans men considered heterosexual? Is a trans woman attracted to cis men considered heterosexual?
__________________
H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉
Xurtio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 06:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
A Jew on a motorbike!
 
Josef K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 800
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xurtio View Post
What I always wondered. Is a trans woman attracted to trans men considered heterosexual? Is a trans woman attracted to cis men considered heterosexual?
Yes, because trans women are women and trans men are men.

(Provided that when you say "trans women" you really mean trans women, i.e. designated male at birth.)
Josef K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 06:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
Brain Licker
 
Xurtio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,083
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josef K View Post
Yes, because trans women are women and trans men are men.

(Provided that when you say "trans women" you really mean trans women, i.e. designated male at birth.)
That makes sense. What about the second one?

And shouldn't there actually be a trans/cis component to sexual orientation? I'm attracted to cis females, but not trans females.

(sorry Exo, i double posted)
__________________
H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉
Xurtio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
Exo
All day jazz and biscuits
 
Exo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,354
Default
It's fine. Triple posts are the devil though. I will end your life. This can stand...but seriously stop.
__________________
LastFM

SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE
Exo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 06:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
A Jew on a motorbike!
 
Josef K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 800
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xurtio View Post
That makes sense. What about the second one?
Yes to both.
Quote:
And shouldn't there actually be a trans/cis component to sexual orientation? I'm attracted to cis females, but not trans females.

(sorry Exo, i double posted)
I don't really believe you, but regardless, when we talk about sexual orientation we pretty much are just talking about what genders, if any, you're attracted to. Since "transgender" is not a gender (and nor is "transgender male" or "transgender female"), the label for your sexual orientation doesn't generally take gender identity into account.
Josef K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 07:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josef K View Post
I don't really believe you, but regardless, when we talk about sexual orientation we pretty much are just talking about what genders, if any, you're attracted to. Since "transgender" is not a gender (and nor is "transgender male" or "transgender female"), the label for your sexual orientation doesn't generally take gender identity into account.
Tell your average dude the chick he's bonering at is a tranny and see if he doesn't consider transgender relevant to sexuality.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 07:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
Brain Licker
 
Xurtio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,083
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josef K View Post
I don't really believe you, but regardless, when we talk about sexual orientation we pretty much are just talking about what genders, if any, you're attracted to. Since "transgender" is not a gender (and nor is "transgender male" or "transgender female"), the label for your sexual orientation doesn't generally take gender identity into account.
Why don't you believe me? That seems like an important influence on everything you say after that, despite you saying that you don't regard it.

Like you think that if a penis came out I wouldn't lose my attraction to someone who I previously thought was a cis female? Or just that I might find a transwoman attractive before I noticed she had a penis?

Or are you just making a statement about sexuality being fluid in general?
__________________
H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉
Xurtio is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Similar Threads


Terms & Privacy - Contact Us - Music Banter - Archive - Top

© 2003-2025 Advameg, Inc.