The Democratic Primaries

William_the_Bloody · 03-14-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi

Very strange obtuse "reasoning" there - especially in light of current events from
a "lazy" perspective ... and especially in light of basic syntactical interpretation.
Sanders is much closer to FDR than ever to Karl Marx. With a stretch, you could
call him a "soft-leftist" by established def. Using the phrase "by modern standards"
is pretty nigh useless if we are talking about sociological absolutes (which we should be).

If your seeking to win an argument, utilizing high brow language doesn't make you look intelligent, it just makes you look like a spoiled pompous arse. so please dispense with the "syntactical interpretation"

By todays standards FDR would be considered a hard leftist at least economically, Marxism would be considered the far left, as in way out there, though I'm sure you could find some philosophical strains of Marxism in Sanders beliefs if you look hard enough. He is after all a self declared socialist.

Hard left refers to the economic policies of left wing parties prior to the Thatcher/Reagan era before the third way polices of Blair, Clinton and Schroeder took over, which is generally considered the center left.

It does not refer to the far left policies of the Soviet Union and the Politburo. I already said I like Sander so stop getting so riled up.

Paul Smeenus · 03-14-2016, 10:30 PM

Quote by Abraham Lincoln:

William_the_Bloody · 03-14-2016, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Quote by Abraham Lincoln:

Oohh, I like that one.

Paul Smeenus · 03-15-2016, 07:57 AM

^ Funny how closely it resembles global climate change

Plainview · 03-15-2016, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

If your seeking to win an argument, utilizing high brow language doesn't make you look intelligent, it just makes you look like a spoiled pompous arse. so please dispense with the "syntactical interpretation"

By todays standards FDR would be considered a hard leftist at least economically, Marxism would be considered the far left, as in way out there, though I'm sure you could find some philosophical strains of Marxism in Sanders beliefs if you look hard enough. He is after all a self declared socialist.

Hard left refers to the economic policies of left wing parties prior to the Thatcher/Reagan era before the third way polices of Blair, Clinton and Schroeder took over, which is generally considered the center left.

It does not refer to the far left policies of the Soviet Union and the Politburo. I already said I like Sander so stop getting so riled up.

What you're saying is objectively wrong. Bernie is not at anywhere close to extreme left. Even if Bernie were a Socialist (he's not), that doesn't make him a Communist, no matter what Trump would have you believe. He's at most (as pointed at) a soft leftist striking a balance between authoritarianism and libertarianism.

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Paul Smeenus · 03-15-2016, 04:28 PM

^ He's only extreme left relative to the US, he'd be standard issue left in most of Europe.

Paul Smeenus · 03-15-2016, 06:07 PM

Unfortunately, the early returns look terrible for Bernie, although in states (FL and NC) that Clinton would have been heavily favored.

Paul Smeenus · 03-15-2016, 06:43 PM

Looks like Hillary is nominated. I will support her.

OccultHawk · 03-15-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Looks like Hillary is nominated. I will support her.

Of course. Especially against Trump. But Cruz as well. Rubio is out.

William_the_Bloody · 03-16-2016, 11:46 AM

Clean sweep for Clinton last night...not even I was expecting that.

Unless a magical indictment comes down on Hillary soon, it is all but over for the Bern.

Hillary has pretty much sealed the nomination, and with the Republican party in the midst of a civil war, she has a clear path to the Whitehouse!

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	Clean sweep for Clinton last night...not even I was expecting that. Unless a magical indictment comes down on Hillary soon, it is all but over for the Bern. Hillary has pretty much sealed the nomination, and with the Republican party in the midst of a civil war, she has a clear path to the Whitehouse!