Frownland

Is that a heated issue over there? Because from an outsider's perspective, I could personally care less about a politician's stance on that.

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Fluff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw

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Frownland

I cared enough to ask.

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Trollheart

The point is that it's just an excuse for the aristocracy and those who hang on to them to hunt animals for sport. There's nothing humane about it (the dogs are allowed - encouraged even - to tear the fox to shreds) and there's no sense of "oh this is a cull" or anything; it's purely barbaric blood sport and the English seem to think (some of them anyway) that it's an acceptable way to behave, and that, more, it's their god-given right. So yeah, among those who a) hate the upper classes b) love animals or c) have any sense of right and wrong, it is a big issue. You ever see the protests against these things?

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Fluff

Come on it's not an English thing, it's toffs and Tory boys who love it.

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Frownland

That's the impression that I got from my limited knowledge of fox hunting, that it was more of a class thing than an ethics thing since this doesn't seem to apply to other areas of hunting (though I might be wrong on that). Hunting in general checks the "inhumane" and bloodsport boxes imo.

Plus, I don't know if animals deserve to be treated in a humane manner. There are animale standards that are more suited to their relationship with man.

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elphenor

Not for me, when we talk about the traditional meaning, which ironically Libertarians with a capitol L do find it hard to commit to

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Trollheart

I did qualify that statement. What I mean is no other country (SFAIK) does it. Do they? We certainly don't do it over here. We had coursing (greyhound racing with real hares not electric ones) but I'm pretty sure that's been banned. Other than "Hunt the Nordy" I don't think we have any real legal bloodsports.

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Pet_Sounds

So hunting is illegal in Ireland?

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Goofle

Most people don't like fox hunting because some blue socialists like it.

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