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View Poll Results: Who would you be voting for?
The Blue Socialists 0 0%
The Red Socialists 2 13.33%
The Yellow Socialists 0 0%
The Purple Socialists 1 6.67%
The Green Socialists 0 0%
The Scottish Yellow Socialists 0 0%
The C*nts 5 33.33%
Set fire to the ballot 3 20.00%
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:06 PM   #41 (permalink)
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You are making the mistake of thinking immigrants move to a location because of the climate or how nice a city is, the reality is they will move to a location for work opportunities, contacts there or possible benefits etc.

Italy might be much nicer than Scotland but it is what is known as a transit country for lots of immigrants, as they are often treated like immigrants in these countries, lack worker rights and are offered poor conditions, whereas in northern europe of where Scotland is their conditions will be a lot better,
I'm aware that economic opportunity is the primary driver, but I do think climate plays a role, especially if your climatized to being in a warmer region. (Bulgaria, Albania ect)

As I've explained to Monkey Tennis, if Scotland were to separate, their GDP would be significantly reduced in size. Outside of oil, Scotland isn't going to be much of an economic driver once its absorbed by the EU.

Thus, I just don't see many Eastern Europeans emigrating to the region. They'll have to attract immigrants from places where people will see a significant boost in their standard of living.

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Italy might be much nicer than Scotland but it is what is known as a transit country for lots of immigrants, as they are often treated like immigrants in these countries, lack worker rights and are offered poor conditions, whereas in northern europe of where Scotland is their conditions will be a lot better,
Yes I have a few Italian friends and they are pretty strict on the immigration, but they tell me that migrants from Eastern Europe while not embraced, or more or less tolerated in the major cities.
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:53 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Its a daily obessesion here with the daily press to go on about the amount of immigrants that flood into the UK on a weekly basis or how our society is gradually being turned in a secondary muslim state etc. I can tell you both points are complete bollocks and this is the one time where the freedom of the press should have some kind of control placed over it as they keep on harping over these points rather than reporting real news.
perhaps you should bring this case to a shariah court... i have a gut feeling they'll find a way to streamline this one through
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:27 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm aware that economic opportunity is the primary driver, but I do think climate plays a role, especially if your climatized to being in a warmer region. (Bulgaria, Albania ect)
Based in this logic everybody from a warm climate would only be emigrating to places like Australia and New Zealand. Whereas the proven reality is that just as many people from hot countries will move to Canada and Northern Europe as well, which shows that the warm climate factor to be a minor consideration.

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As I've explained to Monkey Tennis, if Scotland were to separate, their GDP would be significantly reduced in size. Outside of oil, Scotland isn't going to be much of an economic driver once its absorbed by the EU.

Thus, I just don't see many Eastern Europeans emigrating to the region. They'll have to attract immigrants from places where people will see a significant boost in their standard of living.
This is why Scotland voted to remain part of the UK, part of the greater whole,

If the Jobs are there then they will move there but you need to remember much like Australian and Canadian immigration, Scotland wants educated immigrants and not ruffians, even if they will just end up doing menial Jobs.

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Old 10-12-2015, 01:38 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Lol, yes I hear that happens a lot after you guys down a gallon of Whiskey. I think that's why 2/3rds of the world's alcohol is consumed in Ireland jk of course.
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Based in this logic everybody from a warm climate would only be emigrating to places like Australia and New Zealand. Whereas the proven reality is that just as many people from hot countries will move to Canada and Northern Europe as well, which shows that the warm climate factor to be a minor consideration.



This is why Scotland voted to remain part of the UK, part of the greater whole,

If the Jobs are there then they will move there but you need to remember much like Australian and Canadian immigration, Scotland wants educated immigrants and not ruffians, even if they will just end up doing menial Jobs.

Australia & New Zealand also have tougher immigration laws & enforcement than Canada and the UK, and in Canada, Vancouver has been the prime destination for immigrants, due in part to its warmer climate and geographical location.

That being said, I think we are on the same page??? An independent Scotland would not attract many EU migrants primarily because it would not be an economic hub of Europe, but rather a small satellite state on the fringe.

I just think that its cold climate might also dissuade people from going, if there standard of living isn't going to drastically improve in comparison to other places they could go to in Europe, than why go?

I think that Scotland could attract a lot of high skilled labour from India & China like Canada does. Citizens in the EU just have to many comfy choices.
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Dear god he did it! OCD or what?
I Googled "ireland sucks" and those were all on the first page. Wasn't hard.

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Australia & New Zealand also have tougher immigration laws & enforcement than Canada and the UK, and in Canada, Vancouver has been the prime destination for immigrants, due in part to its warmer climate and geographical location.

That being said, I think we are on the same page??? An independent Scotland would not attract many EU migrants primarily because it would not be an economic hub of Europe, but rather a small satellite state on the fringe.

I just think that its cold climate might also dissuade people from going, if there standard of living isn't going to drastically improve in comparison to other places they could go to in Europe, than why go?

I think that Scotland could attract a lot of high skilled labour from India & China like Canada does. Citizens in the EU just have to many comfy choices.
Well I knew a guy a few years ago here that wanted to emigrate to Canada but gave up after he was told it would be a three year wait unless he secured a job first. He found out that for him Australia was an easier choice and just had a year wait, New Zealand though is meant to be toughest of the three.

An independent Scotland I think would survive as apart from oil it does have a pretty thriving tourist trade as it is spectacular in summer,

You also need to remember that a lot of Brits emigrate to places like Canada and Australia and for most of those the climate is a big factor, because they are not really proper immigrants like from the third world and are moving mostly out of choice..
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I Googled "ireland sucks" and those were all on the first page. Wasn't hard.
Those were probably all written by Irishmen!
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Why? What's so special about 1916?
It's our July 4. Sort of. Except it failed miserably. But it led to our independence. Which we then ... gave away to Germany

Anyway, it's the 100th anniversary of the Easter Rising next year, so just watch it, unless you want the IRA knockin' at yer door!
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Leave it to Ireland to make their holiday last one year instead of celebrating annually.
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