William_the_Bloody

Well it will be interesting to see if this right wing populism rising in the western world is a flash in the pan. From what I understand UKIP siphoned more votes from labour than they did the Conservatives.

The tories will always have those safe upper class seats, its losing those middle and working class swing ridings that will cause them to lose elections.

I just happen to believe that neo liberal economics (free trade & outsourcing) hurts the wages of UK citizens in the long run. Just my opinion though, despite liking the Tory stance on balancing the budget.

John Wilkes Booth

^i thought you had mentioned something about being libertarian?

William_the_Bloody

Me no, I don't subscribe to any political ideology or party, they're all bull$hit. I'm all about the politics of life expectancy.

Whatever policies raise the quality of life and life expectancy of the working class in the western world is what I vote for.


Anyways turns out the Tories planning to do some good things. A raise in the national living wage, and no income tax paid for those on the lower income bracket, though that already probably happens.

Watching question time I think Jeremy Corbyn will be a much shrewder foe for Cameron than red Ed, unfortunately their to far to the left now, and 1970's socialism brings back bad memories for Brits.

William_the_Bloody

Wow the proposed Tax credits cuts by the Tories is all the rage over in the UK.

Hmmm, raising the National Living Wage isn't going to do much for those getting cut, but already making slightly more if I read this right.

William_the_Bloody

Someone should have told Cameron that the UK is not all that important to the EU, unlike the U.S.; the political class not the business class, runs Europe and there is no way a rising powerhouse like Poland is going agree to the cap on migrant benefits with the amount of Poles currently working in the UK.

Of course Hollande is going to oppose it, if Cameron gets his way France will see their migrant population explode. Socialist bastard! I hate Hollande, he's driving France to their financial grave. Here's idea France, why not implement some labour reforms that allow people to work at temporary labour agencies and work their way up the ladder, instead of sitting on the dole.

The darkside of socialism, a two tier class system whereby native born French citizens have good public sector and union paying jobs, and the migrant population sits at the bottom in $hitty service sector jobs because their is no economic opportunity to get ahead with all the bureaucratic red tape that prevents small businesses from getting ahead.

If that's not a recipe for terrorism I don't know what it is.

David Cameron rebuffed on migrant benefits at EU summit - Moneycontrol.com

I knew a Muslim family that moved to the U.S., they guys Uncle now owns a KFC franchise and will have more money than I will ever see!

Why Do American Muslims Fare Better Than Their French Counterparts?

Nameless

I'll tl;dr that article for you.

Also because immigrants to the US in many cases get delicious tax breaks. Why do you think so many people from India buy a gas station, run it for a few years, then when they stop getting tax breaks sign it over to their cousin and do something else? They cut costs harder than Walmart then cash out quick.

William_the_Bloody

This is very true, while Canadian immigrants are quite well off, I've met a ton of Punjabi/Indian immigrants who would love to get into the United States because the opportunity to move up the ladder is far easier. (In their words)

Imagine your a doctor or engineer from Algeria whose immigrated to France and you find yourself cleaning toilets or driving cabs because you have to take a gazillion credentials before you can practice your trade.

You then decide to start your own business but you can't expand because of all the socialist red tape, so your stuck with one little smoke shop that hardly pays the bills.

I probably shouldn't have blasted Hollande as bad as I did, but France has a serious problem with economic liberalization.

Their right wing party is to left of our liberal party in Canada on economics. To the left! They make the Democrats look like Ronald Reagan!

Canada has a better life expectancy rate than France, so I mean....how big of a welfare state does France need?

Nameless

I'm kind of with the train of thought that if the French want to do it they can, the only possible negative impact it could have is on the people deciding to do it. Their approach to economics has been weird for a long time. Want to keep life as nice as possible while barely scraping by. I mean, it has merit.

Again though, starting a business isn't supposed to be easy, there's no point in blaming anything on the government. It's just a dumb idea for most people to do, but there are enough dumb people where it happens a lot. There is no path to financial stability for a lot of people. That's just a near universal truth. This world isn't designed for the lower class to prosper, it's designed for people to prosper off them.

prisoner437x3y0

wow nameless you must be onto something with your conceptualization that most people don't benfit, you've even managed to grasp the concept that in general the lower class doesn't prosper. You make the argument that other people somehow benefit from the lower class? what?

Honestly being a human is more or less what your born into at this point. You got a computer, you can get whatever media you want but alas you might as well kick it like ya boi and start appreciating the general knowledge of incapability

prisoner437x3y0

anybody dumb enough to dismiss other people as dumb self serviceability is a ****ing retard