College Campuses - A War on Free-Speech and Diversity of Opinion?

djchameleon · 05-28-2016, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I wish people would learn what the first amendment was.

DwnWthVwls · 05-29-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raust

Political Correctness and Social Justice Warriors are ruining the western world. And we have the state/government wanting to dumb down facts cause they have there own agenda.

I think those things and moderate progressivism are fine.. The problem is with how the majority go about expressing their support.

**Janszoon** · 05-29-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I wish people would learn what the first amendment was.

^This. I also wish people would learn what "politically correct" actually means.

**Goofle** · 05-29-2016, 12:14 PM

I don't know how some people seem to be happy to point out that Free Speech doesn't extend to all speech in any circumstance, as if that's a good thing. If you're merely pointing out your interpretation of the text that's fair enough, but to celebrate that interpretation is reprehensible.

Also, any definition of Political Correctness you show me doesn't validate Political Correctness as a concept.

**Frownland** · 05-29-2016, 12:35 PM

It only applies to the government. You can get fired at your job for calling someone a ******, but that's totally infringing on free speech! Then you remember that private businesses are in fact, not the government and not allowing them infringes on how they want to operate their business.

Also lol at the angry PC rant.

**Goofle** · 05-29-2016, 12:50 PM

You're confusing two different things there my friend. You're allowed to have rules, regulations and values set within private companies. That's not a free speech matter and never has been, so why you bring that is beyond me. It's why bakers should not be forced to cater for a Homosexual wedding if they don't want to. Your interpretation essentially allows for people to be jailed or punished in some form simply for saying what they want in public, or even at their own privately held event.

Inciting violence should be the only exception, because it can legitimately hurt people. Nothing else. And if you think that's protected by the Constitution or not is irrelevant. It should be standard practice and an expectation in every civilised society.

Edit: Excuse my chopping and changes, I'm pretty wasted.

**Frownland** · 05-29-2016, 01:24 PM

Yup. And universities are not required to give them a platform to speak, and some student unions quite ****tily represent the students (at least in my experience and from what I gather through other schools). That's why a lot of them turn to protest at some of these events, and why a small minority of them get violent and make themselves into super sexy news headlines. Sounds like freedom of speech to me. You know what actually violates the constitution?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_D...spray_incident

I brought up that work example because what is happening at a lot of these schools in a generally peaceful manner that a lot of news sources turn a blind eye to. Students are given the idea that they have some voice in what goes on at their college, and it's the same idea that they shouldn't be forced to host things that are by and large abhorred by the student body in place of something that actually serve their interests.

So quit falling victim to scary conservative click bait about them youngins and how they want you to lose all of your rights. This whole ordeal is so sensationalized and alarmist.

**Goofle** · 05-29-2016, 01:36 PM

Again, I'm not concerned about the constitution or whatever rights any particular government allows you to have. I'm saying you should have freedom to speak in all circumstances except inciting violence. And celebrating anything other than that is abhorrent.

**Frownland** · 05-29-2016, 01:39 PM

Yup. And let me pound this into your skull again. College. Campuses. Do. Not. Have. To. Host. Every. Opinion.

Seriously I'm not sure if some of you speak English.

**Goofle** · 05-29-2016, 01:48 PM

They don't. What point are you making and who are you arguing with? I personally disagree with them banning speakers, and think that they should host a wider variety of speakers and not allow them to be silenced.

05-29-2016, 12:35 PM	#175 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	It only applies to the government. You can get fired at your job for calling someone a *****, but that's totally infringing on free speech! Then you remember that private businesses are in fact, not the government and not allowing them infringes on how they want to operate their business. Also lol at the angry PC rant. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

05-29-2016, 01:24 PM	#177 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Yup. And universities are not required to give them a platform to speak, and some student unions quite ***tily represent the students (at least in my experience and from what I gather through other schools). That's why a lot of them turn to protest at some of these events, and why a small minority of them get violent and make themselves into super sexy news headlines. Sounds like freedom of speech to me. You know what actually violates the constitution? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UC_D...spray_incident I brought up that work example because what is happening at a lot of these schools in a generally peaceful manner that a lot of news sources turn a blind eye to. Students are given the idea that they have some voice in what goes on at their college, and it's the same idea that they shouldn't be forced to host things that are by and large abhorred by the student body in place of something that actually serve their interests. So quit falling victim to scary conservative click bait about them youngins and how they want you to lose all of your rights. This whole ordeal is so sensationalized and alarmist. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

05-29-2016, 01:39 PM	#179 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Yup. And let me pound this into your skull again. College. Campuses. Do. Not. Have. To. Host. Every. Opinion. Seriously I'm not sure if some of you speak English. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x