Key

Why bother? Like Janz said, it's far too easy and should be something people should already know if they went through high school. Not our problem if you couldn't pass astronomy.

P A N

haha. it seems it's a lot easier to talk about how easy it is.

Key

Well, because something like this should be common sense if you've done any form of research on astronomy and space. It's been laid out time and time again, so it's your own ignorance that blinds you.

Chula Vista

Again, go outside and explain why you do not float off into the sky.



It's pretty ****ing dense to purposely act dense just for the sake of maintaining a stupid claim.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

P A N

i can certainly admit to ignorance. i could even base this thread on my own ignorance. i'm not so arrogant as to assume i even remember everything i've ever learned.

but if it's all so obvious, you should be able to very easily provide be an example of a gaseous, closed system existing without any barrier between it and a vacuous expanse.

my ignorance - the root of my curiosity - is what brought me to these questions, and i found it's not as easy as i'd thought it should be. all this being said, it should be remembered that ignorance can take many forms, and if you wish to be above ignorance yourself - which would give you licence to call me ignorant - you should probably prove it, as it's a hefty claim.

P A N

it's funny you should say "dense" so much, because if earth is flat, density, buoyancy and electromagnetism can be held accountable for what we refer to as "mass." the only reason we need gravity is to explain why we don't fly off the ball.

Key

That's the thing, I shouldn't have to provide it, as per it being obvious. Perhaps ignorant wasn't the right word, but all the questions you are asking are questions that I remember being on the final exam for Astronomy class. Maybe i'm ignorant or blinded, but you're throwing around claims about Earth and its surrounding elements that have been debunked time and time again.

Chula Vista

It's scientific theory, of which there are many. After Einstein developed his Theory of Relativity the scientific community have taken gravity as fact even though it can't really be proven.

If I tell you that water is wet would you ask me to prove it?

Again, don't be dense just for the sake of maintaining a stupid talking point.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

P A N

well, why are you participating in the thread? i'm looking to see two things here. one is if people actually have any idea how they came to believe we live on a ball flying through space at a gajillion miles an hour. the other is if the earth is - as i suspect - flat.

there is no shortage of people willing to enlighten me with phrases such as "the earth is not flat." believe me. it's just redundant to inundate threads like this with such unoriginal lines. so, enlighten me with facts. show me what i asked to see. otherwise, i can only assume that - like me - you are not able to do so.

the reason i'm asking for an example of a gaseous system existing within a vacuous expanse without the aid of a barrier is because as far as i can find, there is no other example of this other than earth. i'm not claiming this is a reason - in and of itself - to believe the earth is flat either. i'm just taking this one step at a time.

Key

Let's see:

Astronauts
Moon landing
Astronomy class
Common sense

Read a damn book. Again, this theory has been debunked so many times it's hard to count. You're continuous interest in this is mind boggling.

If you believe the earth is in fact flat, you really are as dense as Chula claims.