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Old 11-07-2016, 10:39 AM   #311 (permalink)
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haha. you fund it, i'll do it man. team work.
Maybe we can just look at plane routes and get the same idea.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:49 AM   #312 (permalink)
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You're right, it is a cop out. You asked for something, I provided it, and you're response is that it doesn't exist. Jupiter has been observed by telescope for several centuries and has been photographed by many, many people for decades. To pretend is doesn't exist is just silly.
you're right. it would be very silly to say it doesn't exist. but like i said, i'll be getting into jupiter later. the only thing i'm saying about it is that just because it's there, doesn't mean it is exactly what we're told it is. this isn't a cop out at all. i can't cover everything in a day, and frankly, no one is doing me the courtesy of answering my questions directly, so i don't particularly feel the need to abide by your expectations. i'm not looking to convert anyone. i just want to talk about it. the tenacity of some of this site's long-standing members in ridicule and conclusions about people who think differently than them is not classy, and i'm doing things how i see fit in light of such behaviour. you can label that what you want.

but as far as labels go, and to bring light to the fact that i'm thinking logically in terms of jupiter, i'll say that bringing up jupiter at all in terms of determining the shape of the earth is a two logical fallacies. one being a false dilemma: we're looking at jupiter as existing in planet form or not existing at all, and the inquiry ends there. the second is a fallacy of division, in that your logic follows that because jupiter is a planet earth must be a planet as well. the second fallacy - to me - suggests that we should look for plenty of proof of the shape of the earth, right from the surface of it, without considering celestial bodies at all.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:50 AM   #313 (permalink)
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What was the last question you asked?
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:52 AM   #314 (permalink)
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How is it not an answer?
remember that time i started that thread about the fact that i didn't know what a troll was? i know what it is now, but admittedly, i'm not the best at spotting them. like, are you joking?

it's basically a yes or no question. if you're on an infinite flat plane and above you there is sky, is there a horizon?
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:52 AM   #315 (permalink)
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Your posts do a great job of ridiculing themselves dude. Quit being a whiny brat about us joining in with you on the fun.

No thoughts on Jupiter's moons? Let's get into Jupiter right now because I get the feeling that you're conveniently not going to bring...something...up.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:54 AM   #316 (permalink)
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I'm ashamed at myself for continuing to feed this Goblin....

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:54 AM   #317 (permalink)
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remember that time i started that thread about the fact that i didn't know what a troll was? i know what it is now, but admittedly, i'm not the best at spotting them. like, are you joking?

it's basically a yes or no question. if you're on an infinite flat plane and above you there is sky, is there a horizon?
Yes. There would also be an end to the earth and we haven't found that yet.
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Old 11-07-2016, 11:30 AM   #318 (permalink)
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this can't be independently validated. i know that seems like a cop out, and some bleating sheep will quote this line and put a laughing face under it or some totally original and witty thing. it's not a cop out. belief in jupiter requires faith.
Jupiter believes in you.
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Yes. There would also be an end to the earth and we haven't found that yet.
Amelia Earhart did. Flight 19 too.
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Your posts do a great job of ridiculing themselves dude. Quit being a whiny brat about us joining in with you on the fun.

No thoughts on Jupiter's moons? Let's get into Jupiter right now because I get the feeling that you're conveniently not going to bring...something...up.
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