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Old 01-10-2017, 04:20 PM   #611 (permalink)
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maybe if you make a decision to not need to win, you will be able to exchange terms like "assumptions" with "logical conclusions". just use your logic buddy. you can do it. *high five*
Nice dodge, but no you really are making a lot of assumptions. "If there was a tail, we would see it" is just one. Let me know when you have that evidence. Apologies for holding you to the same standards that I hold myself and everyone else to.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:22 PM   #612 (permalink)
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Gravity? or do you not believe in that either..

He's another thing I just thought of:

I don't know if it's true, but based on my limited knowledge:

The solar system is closed or isolated system? The solar system as a whole has a tail (as I showed with the video that you called a cartoon), but the things inside of it do not because they are all moving together.
Kind of like if you put a comet inside of something and sent it through space it wouldn't have a tail.
that video IS a cartoon and is not valid. it's not proof of anything. show me the tail of the solar system and i'll entertain this line of thinking.
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that video IS a cartoon and is not valid. it's not proof of anything. show me the tail of the solar system and i'll entertain this line of thinking.
You gotta open your mind dude, don't hold onto the flat earth paradigm so hard.
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maybe if you make a decision to not need to win, you will be able to exchange terms like "assumptions" with "logical conclusions". just use your logic buddy. you can do it. *high five*
But when you start comparing the sun to a comet for no good reason it's not a logical conclusion. You're merely broadcasting to everyone your own ignorance of how either works on even the most fundamental level and then broadcasting your own disregard for your ignorance by taking any "conclusions" drawn from it and presenting them as if they have any value.
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that's certainly up for debate. flat earther's also believe the earth is stationary, and that the sky revolves around it. that literally means we're the center of the universe. if you take away the ball earth, you take away the odds that our planet's creation was a fluke. that means intelligent design. and i'm no bible thumper by any means, so that's a hard pill for me to swallow. my thinking is that if intelligent design needs to be covered up, than we've been deceived as to what intelligent design may imply. it's all speculative of course, but i certainly speculate on the implications of a flat earth regularly. if they (whoever the perpetuators of the lie are) feel the need to cover up our origin story, then it's probably for some type of control. maybe society works better when we think we're an accident. maybe the devil is trying to overpopulate hell. i only have ideas, as it's beyond me.
I'm not sure why a spherical earth would negate the possibility of intelligent design.
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Nice dodge, but no you really are making a lot of assumptions. "If there was a tail, we would see it" is just one. Let me know when you have that evidence. Apologies for holding you to the same standards that I hold myself and everyone else to.
no apologies necessary. you and i just think differently. and i'm afraid i don't know how to further exemplify the logic. i say there should be a tail, because the sun (like a comet) has stuff coming off of it. the fact that it has stuff coming off of it is common knowledge in my books (at least in the globe earth theory) and i don't really understand what else you need to comprehend this besides opening your mind up. you're saying the sun doesn't have a tail because it doesn't. and because it doesn't, it means that the sun and a comet are different. i'm saying that's not logical because we know enough about them to know of the similarities, and despite those similarities, we can see that they are obviously behaving very differently. you think they are dissimilar, and i can live with that.
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I'm not sure why a spherical earth would negate the possibility of intelligent design.
well it doesn't, actually. but if you plaster the world with advertising that says "make the most of your life! buy stuff and identify with products! your life is the only thing that should matter to you!" while simultaneously explaining that the earth very well could be a complete accident, it's easier to get people to forget about the implications of intelligent design in favour of stuffing their faces and watching porn.

EDIT: whereas if we are well aware that the earth is flat, stationary, and the sky revolves around us, we pretty much know for certain that our purpose here isn't solely of our own design.
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no apologies necessary. you and i just think differently. and i'm afraid i don't know how to further exemplify the logic. i say there should be a tail, because the sun (like a comet) has stuff coming off of it. the fact that it has stuff coming off of it is common knowledge in my books (at least in the globe earth theory) and i don't really understand what else you need to comprehend this besides opening your mind up. you're saying the sun doesn't have a tail because it doesn't. and because it doesn't, it means that the sun and a comet are different. i'm saying that's not logical because we know enough about them to know of the similarities, and despite those similarities, we can see that they are obviously behaving very differently. you think they are dissimilar, and i can live with that.
Your only evidence is in comparing two things that are inherently different from one another as if they act identically. So your logic is wrong from the start. Glad to help. I'll be here if you have any more questions.
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that video IS a cartoon and is not valid. it's not proof of anything. show me the tail of the solar system and i'll entertain this line of thinking.
You realize things happen that you can't take pictures of? The cartoon is based off of raw data collected by technology, and then modeled with a cartoon image.

If you're not open to this portion of science I think you have bigger things to tackle than the earth's shape.
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You gotta open your mind dude, don't hold onto the flat earth paradigm so hard.
i'm sorry, is that video NOT a cartoon? haha. straight from the art dept.
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