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View Poll Results: What should we do about capitalism?
Replace it with socialism, through parliamentary reforms 4 14.29%
Replace it with socialism, through revolution 4 14.29%
Use more public regulations to counteract some of its consequences 12 42.86%
Scale down public regulations to let the free market run its course 6 21.43%
Nothing, it’s fine as it is 2 7.14%
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Old 10-08-2016, 12:16 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 10-08-2016, 12:33 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yes. Because the government doesn't **** up everything it touches.
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Old 10-08-2016, 12:47 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Yes. Because the government doesn't **** up everything it touches.
I'm all for lateral hierarchal structures and worker-operated collectives, but the nagging question which I can't resolve is how a nation without a government or private industry would achieve large-scale technological projects like internet infrastructure, big data analytical engines which empower the citizenry, complex hospital equipment for health services, etc?

Is that the utopian caveat?
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Old 10-08-2016, 02:41 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I see that as kind of like using duct tape to hold together leaky pipes. It might work in the beginning, but after a while, the tape will fall off and the pipes are leaking more than ever. Social democracy can't get rid of economic equality. It does nothing to remove social classes and the class struggle that follows. It doesn't stop imperialist war and the environmental mischief caused by multinational corporations. Norway has long been one of the social-democratic poster countries, but over the last fifteen years, our economic inequality has just gotten worse and worse, while private companies gradually dig into our public sector to profit from schools and nursing homes. When the TISA agreement comes into operation, it'll be next to impossible to take back our public services. The age of social democracy has been a fun ride, but it won't last forever. Neoliberalism is on the offensive, and reforms won't make it flinch.
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At most the government should be a regulator to make sure monopolies and oligarchies don't form in a free market system; equality opportunity (but not equal outcome) is everything, and we've drifted away from that. Socialism isn't the answer (at least not in a bigger country like the United Sates), because the population isn't racially or culturally similar, and also human nature goes against the very concept of socialism, communism, etc.
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How so?
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Oh, just echoes of McCarthy.
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