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Old 05-11-2007, 05:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i can understand being anti-greed and being against all the bull**** that major corparations pull off, but why do propaghandi and related bands think they're clever by being anti-capitalist? if independent record labels aren't capitalist i don't know what is. and i hate the 9-to-5 black suit lifestyle as much as any punk new to the scene, but independent enterprise, i always thought, was capitalism. shall we discuss?
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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To be honest, I don't know. Capitalism doesn't seem all that bad, in fact, in a way it creates a fair yet competitive market place. With proper advertisement and marketing punk could be just as mainstream as pop due to capitalism. You'd think they'd be grateful for having an equal opportunity.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Because its an acceptable political stance in the punk world.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It really has nothing to do with capitalism itself. It's the system in place and just like any other it doesn't work as ideally as on paper. There is no right way.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Capitalism in theory is not bad. Humans are though. Greed ruins an alright system in capitalism just like they ****ed up communism.
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Old 05-11-2007, 11:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Like a couple people have said, I don't think punk is against the concept of capitalism as much as they are against the way it has been employed by multinational corporations as a "stab anyone in the back, destroy thousands of lives, as long as you can get rich" practice.

Its funny how so many theories (capitalism, communism, anarchism, etc) look great on paper, but can never be applied right by humans.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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all forms of government are flawed
all systems will fail
due to corruption and greed.
Let it be Communism, where the leaders became to power hungry
and led the nations into the ground.
Capitalism fails due to being money orientated, and only a few people out of the population have that much money, to succeed in the political feild you can not be a common man.

But bands being anti capitalism
are in fact usually over done or redundant upon themselves, they'd have to produce and distribute their albums for free, to eb totally anti capitalism.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Because they unquestioningly conform to a political, social and philosophical mindset that started with the hippie/peacenik scene in the 1960s and has reared its head in practically every countercultural movemnt since then with the exception of hip hop which in general celebrates business acumen and making money.
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if its that all forms of government are flawed as much as its that all humans are flawed.
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well if humans are flawed and the system depends on the trust that humans will act in an intended way then the system is flawed.
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