US Election Day - the MB version

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-08-2016, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Explain further.

Justin Trudeau is a moron and has yet to do anything worthy of my support. He was only voted in because we all hated Stephen Harper so much and wanted to ensure he wasn't re-elected again. Trudeau has yet to demolish Bill C-51 (despite it being one of his biggest promises) and is trying to pass Bill C-16 which I disagree with.

Lisnaholic · 11-08-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

My coworkers were all crying in the teachers' room at lunch just now.

^ Americans, I presume, as I don't suppose the Japanese feel an emotional involvement with this election?

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's much more dire than that, unfortunately. Damn am I tried of living in such a stupid country.

^ Yes, sorry. That was a rather false glimmer of hope, I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

lol the Canadian Immigration website crashed tonight.

^ Yeah, I thought that was funny. Everyone is asking about visas already. Authorities report that one panicky caller, identified only as "Janszoon", has made over a hundred inquiries in the last hour.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-08-2016, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

lol. Are you kidding? The Republican history of pandering to Christians is an excellent example of PC culture. Their suppression of the press during the Bush administration's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are great examples of trying to control free speech. "Having such a ridiculous hubris that they assumed that even one of the most corrupt politicians of all-time could get in office," is a great description of a party that nominated a scumbag businessman for the highest office in the land. And "putting feelings over facts" is exactly what the Trump campaign was all about. Do you seriously think "make America great again" was about facts? lol

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Fear is an emotion. Censoring free speech is a common trait of the right (not universal but it isn't for the left either).

And blaming the left as a whole for Hillary's nomination is just forgetful.

With that said, congratulations, President Pence!

I disagree but to be fair it's 1am and I wasn't prepared for a debate on the topic so I'll just leave it.

I'm not trying to defend the right or Trump though, I'm just saying this is what happens when you take things to the extremes.

**Janszoon** · 11-08-2016, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

I disagree but to be fair it's 1am and I wasn't prepared for a debate on the topic so I'll just leave it.

I'm not trying to defend the right or Trump though, I'm just saying this is what happens when you take things to the extremes.

It's hilarious that you think the US has ever been even remotely extreme left in any of our lifetimes.

Lisnaholic · 11-08-2016, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

What's everyone listening to while this shit goes down? I've got Swordfishtrombones on.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-08-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It's hilarious that you think the US has ever been even remotely extreme left in any of our lifetimes.

The US as a whole hasn't, but the left side is being overrun by extremists. I'm not denying that extremists exist on both sides of the spectrum, but their prominence on the left alongside the role that it is playing in mainstream media is simply turning people away from them.

When things like this start to happen:

Missouri email tells students to call police if feelings are hurt from hate speech

The Protests at Amherst College - The Atlantic

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President Martin must issue a statement to the Amherst College community at large that states we do not tolerate the actions of student(s) who posted the “All Lives Matter” posters, and the “Free Speech” posters that stated that “in memoriam of the true victim of the Missouri Protests: Free Speech.” Also let the student body know that it was racially insensitive to the students of color on our college campus and beyond who are victim to racial harassment and death threats; alert them that Student Affairs may require them to go through the Disciplinary Process if a formal complaint is filed, and that they will be required to attend extensive training for racial and cultural competency.

people begin to see the left is fighting against their own freedoms.

People are tired of being told what to think and being called racist/sexist/homophobic w/e else for disagreeing with these skewed perceptions of reality and that's evident in the outcome of this election. Obviously Trump isn't a good choice for president, but people like that he's loud, brash and not afraid to actually speak his mind instead of dancing around the issues in fear of offending somebody.

**Frownland** · 11-08-2016, 10:19 PM

I think that ott reporting is worse than the small faction of American "liberals" that make sexier news stories than rational adults.

**Janszoon** · 11-08-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

people begin to see the left is fighting against their own freedoms.

lol. Talk about putting feelings over facts. Let's move past your feelings about students at a couple universities, here are some facts:

The US has three equally powerful branches of government.
For most of the 21st century, 2/3-3/3 of those branches have been right-wing.
Until the death of Justice Antonin Scalia earlier this year, the government was 2/3 right-wing.
Now, with a split supreme court, it's closer to 50/50, though the "left" in the US is very much center-left.
The right-wing controlled legislative branch has, to use your words, such "ridiculous hubris" that they have crippled the top level of the judicial system for nearly a year because they're unwilling to even attempt to work with anyone who isn't right-wing.

So how exactly is the "extreme left"—who frankly don't exist on any side of the equation here—the problem?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 11-08-2016, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

lol. Talk about putting feelings over facts. Let's move past your feelings about students at a couple universities, here are some facts:

The US has three equally powerful branches of government.
For most of the 21st century, 2/3-3/3 of those branches have been right-wing.
Until the death of Justice Antonin Scalia earlier this year, the government was 2/3 right-wing.
Now, with a split supreme court, it's closer to 50/50, though the "left" in the US is very much center-left.
The right-wing controlled legislative branch has, to use your words, such "ridiculous hubris" that they have crippled the top level of the judicial system for nearly a year because they're unwilling to even attempt to work with anyone who isn't right-wing.

So how exactly is the "extreme left"—who frankly don't exist on any side of the equation here—the problem?

I'm talking about the supporters, not the government. The point is that this new age left has turned people away from the party to the point that they would actually consider voting for Donald Trump to be a reasonable option.

This was an election that had very little to do with any sort of policies either politicians had to offer, I'm sure we can agree on that?

**Janszoon** · 11-08-2016, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

I'm talking about the supporters, not the government. The point is that this new age left has turned people away from the party to the point that they would actually consider voting for Donald Trump to be a reasonable option.

I'm talking about the reality of living in the US, not your perception of some college students.

View Poll Results: Your vote for US president
Donald Trump	10	32.26%
Hillary Clinton	8	25.81%
Other	13	41.94%
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