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OccultHawk 05-18-2017 11:50 AM

No Chexit!

Chula Vista 05-18-2017 02:47 PM

Just emailed my doctor and agreed to up my dosage from 50mg to 100mg. He wanted me to do it when I saw him a few weeks back - but being a DUDE'S DUDE, I told him I'd handle things on my own.

Ya, well that ain't working.

If I start teywing el;ike thsia oovewr thes nexts fewsk eeks yousd'lll kno whiy.

My birthday is May 30th. Back when I was really young I thought it was so cool that my elementary school shut down and let all the kids stay home in honor of me. Gave me a massive superiority complex that I've yet to fully shake many decades later.

(back then the holiday was actually celebrating on the 30th instead of the closest Monday)

Trollheart 05-18-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1836737)
Ya, it would be waiting until dark with a baseball bat. Arthristis hinders my hands these days.

Frown reached out with a leaf and I'm actually very grateful.

This internet back and forth crap can easily get flippant without proper sensitive regard.

Me and Frowny be good. I put my bat back in the closet.

Just don't forget, I'm from Bawston peeps. My kind do not take personal family attacks lightly. I could call 3 dudes right now (who couldn't help me pay my mortgage) but if I bought them a plane ticket, would **** someone up pretty badly on my behalf.

Only joking.

Actually, not.

:p::p::p:

Um, why is The Batlord in your closet? Enquiring minds want to know...
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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1836760)
You said it yourself that you two are good but I meant it when I said that EVERYBODY will be disciplined if these thing start becoming norm. I've addressed it with the team Chula. Have some faith in your ol' pal Exo here.

To be fair to Frownland. I was a big supporter of him being asked to become a mod. Your name in blue doesn't put you above people. We aren't your overlords. We volunteer to keep the peace, ban the spammers, clean up the boards so they look nice, and occasionally have to make a decision to ban a person of considerable status. We don't like it. I don't anyway. You and Frown have serious beef. I'm not going to de-mod somebody, even if I had that power, because he and another member don't get along.

You were both out of line. Him with his comment about Mike and you with your response to it. Remember that this is still simply a public forum on the internet. You can choose not to respond. You can choose to ignore people. You chose to respond and you responded poorly, even if Frown hit below the belt, which I have already addressed behind the scenes.

We're not making a mountain out of a Frown/Chula mole hill. If the sh*t continues, I'll take action, but act like mature adults and chill the f*ck out so I don't have to do that.

An excellent response, Exo, and well overdue. Sometimes people step over the line, and that line needs to be pointed out to them.
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1836766)
Exo, you have kids? Adult kids? Adult kids with a crippling mental illness?

Address Frownland publically and scold him publically too for being an ass. **** this behind the scenes mod bull****.

How does a punch from Frown. And then a counterpunch to that punch become equal? A MUSIC BANTER mod was a complete an utter assh0le to a member
with a seriously sad medical situation.

He was a dick. Call him out publically, and a little more seriously instead of trying to make me his equal in the discourse. Disappointed with you.

I guess you've calmed down now Chula, but ftr I wouldn't have been a supporter of this. Naming and shaming? Sounds pretty douchey to be honest. Exo said he had it, and I think it's fair to leave it with him. He's a good guy.
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1836874)
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You're not alone.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvCK2o6Zbo

Here's a video of an Oirishman falling over un de oyce.

There were rumours the ice was specially polished to make sure someone fell...

On another note, my best wishes to you as well Chula. Hope things turn around for you, but try not to make such a target of yourself with Frown. Whatever else he may be (and he is many things) he ain't a poor shot, or someone who won't take the shot when it's there. I think once you understand that about him, he's a little easier to get on with. Maybe.

djchameleon 05-18-2017 03:28 PM

So it is now officially a criminal investigation. The ties between Trump and Russia case.

Frownland 05-18-2017 03:30 PM

Ja that describes me pretty well. I hate to let a shot go to waste, getting drunk is expensive.

Chula Vista 05-18-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1837175)
Ja that describes me pretty well. I hate to let a FREE shot go to waste, getting drunk is expensive.

Fixed.

The fact that they named a special prosecutor is HUGE!!!!! Turtle neck, who's the grand pubar in Washington right now, said it wouldn't happen less than a week ago.

Remember all of this stuff folks. I watched Cronkite and Brinkley every night reporting when Watergate was going down. This is your Watergate to tell your kids about someday.

Anteater 05-18-2017 04:07 PM

Trump is going down one way or another at this point....but it bothers me that it looks like Comey technically lied under oath when he testified at the Senate hearing earlier this month that nobody above him in seniority or the Justice Department had ever tried to "halt" an FBI investigation "in his experience".

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US Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 1 § 4: Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

Trollheart 05-18-2017 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1837175)
Ja that describes me pretty well. I hate to let a shot go to waste, getting drunk is expensive.


Key 05-19-2017 10:10 AM

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...8d&oe=5979228F

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 11:51 AM

Too bad it's impossible to read the article.

Van Jones last night: "Tough Guy Trump is now President Snowflake"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Cuthbert 05-19-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1837168)
There were rumours the ice was specially polished to make sure someone fell...

lol seriously?

I remember first time I saw that, amazing.

Thoughts on this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUE7nGPfaa4

Frownland 05-19-2017 12:03 PM

Dude shouldn't've gotten up so fast, it's the same as choking yourself when you do that.

Exo 05-19-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1837356)

They shot JFK in the face.

Frownland 05-19-2017 01:15 PM

The media? I've not heard this theory yet, please elaborate.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 01:33 PM

New breaking bombshell: NY Times reporting that Trump told the two Russian officials in the oval office, "I just fired the FBI director. He was crazy, a real nut job. I was under great pressure over the Russian probe. This will ease that."

Things just moved a sh!tload closer to Obstruction of Justice.

Didn't realize that whenever there's a meeting between international officials, a couple of note takers have to be present to memorialize the dialogue. The notes are considered official documents and are distributed to Washington officials. One of them leaked it to the NYT.

Trump is dumber than dirt.

Frownland 05-19-2017 01:36 PM

They should've picked a better source for their leak tbh, although I guess higher quality publications aren't as keen on those sexy bombshell stories as NYT.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 01:44 PM

The New York Times has won 122 Pulitzer Prizes, far more than any other publication. What you on about Willis?

Robert Mueller, recently appointed special investigator into the Russian probe, spent 12 years as FBI director and by all accounts respects Comey, his successor.

Calling Comey crazy and a nut job??? Not a wise move Donald.

Frownland 05-19-2017 01:48 PM

Take it case by case. Do you think this story qualifies for a Pulitzer?

Their rapid decline into partisan pandering only occurred in the past 5ish years anyway.

Good article that kind of touches on that subject: http://www.cracked.com/blog/we-are-c...e-know-better/

OccultHawk 05-19-2017 01:49 PM

Nut Job?

That's very offensive!

Frownland 05-19-2017 01:52 PM

Also if Muller being insulted about his buddy or his relationship with Comey affects the outcome of the case, he should be fired too because that's the exact opposite of how justice works.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1837424)
Also if Muller being insulted about his buddy or his relationship with Comey affects the outcome of the case, he should be fired too because that's the exact opposite of how justice works.

Of course. Speaking of Justice, how about commenting on the actual content of the bombshell instead of focusing on who published it.

Trump admits he fires Comey specifically because of the Russia probe. On a scale of 1 to 10, how's that sit on your justice scale?

Frownland 05-19-2017 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837425)
Of course. Speaking of Justice, how about commenting on the actual content of the bombshell instead of focusing on who published it.

I can't confirm an anonymous leak. That's actually the main reason why I think they should have chosen a better outlet if they are genuine.

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“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”
The American official could be Kathy Davis for all I know. I'm just saying don't put all of your money on this horse just yet.

Frownland 05-19-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1837431)
NYT has a corporate and pro-establishment bias that's inherent in the very way media works in the 21st century

The partisanship is really the result of the right moving way outside the lines

It's a result $$$$, hands down. Who has time for nuance or subtlety? Just tell me what I already know, journalist dorks.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 02:12 PM

Sean Spicer released a statement where he didn't deny what Trump said at all. He can't. It's an official record at this point.

His spin is that it's all about Trump trying to build up relations with Russia, and that the leak itself is the big story.

Obstruction of Justice is lurking around the corner.

And now Trump is on this huge overseas junket and he's going to have to be dealing with reporters shouting out questions about Russia rather than what he wants the visit to be about.

Numerous talking heads are saying there's going to be some very tense meetings behind closed doors with the officials he's meeting with over what's gone down the past 10 days and how much they can trust Trump and his administration.

Frownland 05-19-2017 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Spicer
By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia’s actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia. The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations.

Meh, it could potentially be a weapon but it's no smoking gun.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837412)
"I just fired the FBI director. He was crazy, a real nut job. I was under great pressure over the Russian probe. This will ease that."

Read it again.

Frownland 05-19-2017 02:31 PM

Hearsay =/= smoking gun

Like, ever.

There's no reason to believe that it's true and equally no reason to believe that it isn't. I'm just so sick of the media breathlessly repeating things without verifying them just because it makes Trump or whoever they don't like look bad.

Exo 05-19-2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1837422)
Nut Job?

That's very offensive!

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...4632436168.gif

Anteater 05-19-2017 02:53 PM

I'm even more skeptical of the media than I am of Trump. You see far right conservative news sources using anonymous sources all the time, and they are rightfully discredited. Why should the NYT get a pass just because they're setting the agenda? They played a part in creating Trump...but the genie isn't going back in the bottle. Time to up your game MSM...

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1837444)
I'm even more skeptical of the media than I am of Trump.

Funny how Trump's "fake news" strategy has taken hold with so many people.

Why did Spicer not call the NYT's story "fake news"? How come he didn't deny it? Like I said, it's already an official record. The note takers aren't the leakers. It's once it's made official and circulated that someone in the Washington belt decides to hand it over. Everyone I've been listening to the past few hours agrees on this. On both sides.

There's people within the administration covering their asses right now as not to be found complicit later down the road.

No one in The White House wants to become part of the Trumpgate Seven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_Seven

Frownland 05-19-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837456)
Why did Spicer not call the NYT's story "fake news"?

Maybe because even the evil baddies realize that's a shit strategy/term.

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How come he didn't deny it?
Why didn't Obama deny being responsible Sandy Hook? Must've been the shooter himself. (These two situations are not equivalencies, but the logic found in them are identical).

I'm glad you're not a lawyer dude.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 04:15 PM

Trump major lawyering up right now regarding impeachment.

OccultHawk 05-19-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1837434)
Mainstream Media is about "Manufacturing Consent" as Chomsky put it

If you ignore all his politics, and only read one of his books that's the one I consider essential

On Anarchism

And the basics of linguistics

But yeah if just one Manufacturing Consent. Maybe more important now than ever. Chomsky was dealing with a world that still valued honesty though. Not that they weren't liars but Trump supporters celebrate brazen and open dishonesty. It's a new paradigm.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1837474)
Trump supporters celebrate brazen and open dishonesty. It's a new paradigm.

Indeed.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 04:53 PM

Comey and congress agree to a fully public testimony after a week of people thinking it was only going to happen behind closed doors.

This is going to be so much fun.

:tramp::tramp::tramp::tramp:

Goofle 05-19-2017 05:14 PM

Its kinda hilarious that literally nothing Trump has done could be provably impeachable, improper legally or an act going beyond his available authority. Anonymous sources, anonymous insiders, non issues etc. One coming out after the other, dying a quick death, as if it's all pretty much hot air to make him look like he's genuinely acting like a complete tyrant.

But damn Donald, put out a cohesive message. Jesus. Give these guys an inch and they will travel round the world with it.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1837494)
non issues

You lost me right here. You need to fly over to the US and spend some time watching the news cycle this past week. Heads are exploding (Scanners like) on both sides of the aisle. Trump's lawyering up big time and his inner circle (non-family) are crumbling.

Goofle 05-19-2017 05:28 PM

Maybe you should spend less time invested in the news cycle? Look at what people have actually said and done. IRL.

Frownland 05-19-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837497)
You lost me right here. You need to fly over to the US and spend some time watching the news cycle this past week. Heads are exploding (Scanners like) on both sides of the aisle. Trump's lawyering up big time and his inner circle (non-family) are crumbling.

If millions of fans get riled up about Bieber's haircut, does it start to matter? In my experience, people are VERY skilled at treating non-issues like apocalypses (such as illegal immigration or the War on Christmas).

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 05:46 PM

The news cycle, when it comes to politics, influences a vast majority of the US voting public (and Wall Street). Not saying that's right or wrong. Just saying that's the way it is.

Trump only got elected because of the news cycle for crying out loud.

Crooked Hillary. Lock her up. Personal server. Repeal and replace Obamacare. Make America great again. All part of a nightly news cycle during the leadup to the election.

Trying to dismiss it, or ignore it is pretty naive when it comes to politics.

Bringing Beiber into it? Sometimes you grasp so hard at straws to try and make a comeback it's beyond ridiculous.

What's going to be the headline on most newspapers tomorrow - worldwide - and what's going to be the leading story on all of the morning news shows. What's going to completely distract Trump's middle east trip?

Like it or not. It's the current reality. Again, the vast majority of Americans pay very close attention to the news.


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