There is no smoking gun. There's casings, there's bullets, there's a gun, there's gunpowder on various people's hands, there's a gun shop receipt.......

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Funny that you call my responses typical, yet you are the one who keeps getting questioned as to how serious you are about your opinions of things.

Trump coloered glasses. You and Jeffery Lord should go bar hopping together.

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There's no "drip drip drip drip drip". Just a lot of people around Trump who attempt to get into his good graces just like all of the people who tried to get close to Podesta and the Clinton campaign. And so far any alleged collusion attempts have all backfired.

Honestly Chula, its hard for me to be sympathetic to people who hate Trump when the opposition is this pathetic. I wouldn't mind him being impeached, but if this is the best anyone has then it'll never happen. Trump can't be the impeachable mastermind behind a grand conspiracy and also an idiotic buffoon incapable of effectiveness. You have to pick one or the other. Elephantenor being snide just demonstrates he wasn't paying attention.

Again, let's review what we've learned from this testimony so far.

- Comey says initially Trump did not pressure him to drop Russian investigation, but then later contradicts this statement.

- Trump was told on three separate occasions he was not under investigation, which both Comey and the media had previously said Trump was lying about

- Comey was in at least two important meetings with Obama in 2016 one-on-one but didn't see fit to make memos of them. Yet on his very first meeting with Trump he arbitrarily decides to start doing so. Doesn't use any form of new-fangled 2017 technology (encryption app like Signal, email, etc.) to create a verifiable audit trail. He might as well have scribbled them all in crayon on the back of a coloring book last month.

- Leaks "memo" with potentially classified information to NYT through third party immediately after being fired.

- Can't explain in a logical or coherent fashion why he didn't tell anyone back in February about Trump's "pressure" to drop Flynn investigation. He trips over himself about Sessions and makes up excuses about why he couldn't talk to anyone in the Justice Department despite being so "concerned".

1. He explained that he only decided to document his meetings with Trump because of the disturbing nature of what Trump was asking him to do.

2. He explained that he had multiple networks camped out on his lawn and wanted to avoid more scutiny because he and his wife were about to go on vacation.

3. He explained that he didn't want to make the "pressure" known pubicly as not to taint the ongoing Russian/Flynn investigation.

Trump colored glasses dude.

1. No audit trail on these memos, no dice. If they were so important, he would have kept digital records, emails, something on the day of said meetings. Having worked with people in government and in high level corporate environments, I don't buy his explanation because it looks like he cooked these memos up only after Trump threatened with tapes.

2. He had multiple opportunities long before he was fired. Why would networks camping out on his lawn have anything to do with it. He knew Trump didn't have any tapes either. Instead of emailing something to the NYT or a relevant party directly (which would be a verifiable audit trail) he decides to leak personal information about himself in a pointless, potentially illegal roundabout fashion. Take off your own glasses dude: his reasoning doesn't add up.

3. Again, doesn't add up. Going to a relevant party and making it known that Trump had literally pressured him would have been a big deal that would have worked in favor of the investigation. His talk of how it would have "tainted" the investigation doesn't add up if he was seriously concerned about obstruction of justice.

Trump needs to go down. But all Comey's testimony ultimately amounted to was that he hasn't learned anything from his questionable judgement calls in 2016. Better go get that orangutan.

http://www.orangutan.com/wp-content/...rangutans1.jpg

Chula v. Anteater is the new Chula v. Frownland, except mind-numbingly boring.

I don't even visit this thread anymore because of it

Your mom's boring.

Once again, Trump colored glasses. Read my lips:

HE SHARED HIS NOTES OF THE TRUMP MEETINGS WITH HIS STAFF IMMEDIATELY AFTER WRITING THEM. Collectively they agreed the best decision was to not release them at the time as not to influence the ongoing Russian investigation.

Take the Trump cotton out of your ears.

On another note, I think McCain is on a higher dose of Zoloft than I am. He's slurry, fuzzy, and has twice reffered to Trump and President Comey. To his credit he's being really tough with his questioning.

She actually is. I think I was adopted.

You're not, son.

You do realize "hearsay" and an audit trail verifiable by 3rd party sources are not the same thing right? Especially since Comey was the one who leaked this information in the first place, yet nobody except people on his payroll can verify it. Trump can't produce tapes and Comey can't produce an audit trail that proves he really wrote these memos when he said he did. Thus we're at a dead end.

We've both been in corporate environments before, surely I don't have to explain something that simple to you.

The big bomb I've seen dropped today is learning OccultHawk is Batlord father.

I guess that's why his semen tastes so familiar.

First off, no-one is on Comey's payroll. :rofl: They are all on the Government's payroll. And they would be 2nd sources. Comey = source #1. His chief of staff, second in command, NSA director, etc. = #2. Lastly, if any of them are called before the special counsel and sworn in I highly doubt they'll purger themselves to the Goverment on behalf of a private citizen.

Trump colored glasses.

It makes sense people would look like orangutans.

They're loyal to Comey and the government writes their checks. Familiar story. You don't seem to understand what I mean by audit trail here so I guess I'll leave it at that. If there was a real audit trail the testimony could have been so much more effective than it was instead of the cluster**** it ended up being.

Orange colored sunglasses....yummy.

Trump colored glasses look like this:

http://www.musicbanter.com/avatars/2...ine=1388515520

(P.S. Note the orange color...... )

I have one question for McCain.

Will you PLEASE introduce me to your dealer?

I know, right? The dude was wasted on something. age? prescription drugs? brandy? not enough coffee? illegal drugs? age?

That had Xanax and Vicodin written all over it. Maybe just a little Scotch to take the edge off.

Lol McCain didn't know where he was.

Trump was trying to act like a mob boss. "I HOPE you forget about this whole Flynn investigation".

He didn't need to make memos for other presidents because he rarely met with them and they knew how to conduct themselves since they have political experience. He knew Trump was a shady conman and didn't feel comfortable after their first meeting so he started taking memos.

He told him he wasn't under investigation but that doesn't mean others under him was included in that statement.

Bingo.

He's looking at amber waves of grain boi.

Wow. McCain being interviewed after the testimony right now. Dude's ****ed up really bad. Wonder if he had a mini stroke or something. I'm actually worried about the dude.

McCain needs a vacation. Also, my two favorite parts of the testimony.

Holy ****. Trump's attorney's response to Comey's testimony.....

Marc Kasowitz: Comey leaked privileged information:

NO.

Comey was careful to make sure that his memos didn't include classified information. There is no law that says every word out of the presidents mouth is privileged. NONE. As soon as Trump fired Comey and made him a private citizen Trump's words became full game.

A ridiculously lame response to Comey's powerful testimony today.

While everyone was distracted by the Comey stuff. The house passed a bill to kill Dodd Frank.

House votes to kill Dodd-Frank. Now what? - Jun. 8, 2017

Obama bailing out the banks and the auto industry was probably the most oligarchical move of any president ever. That doesn't mean I support repealing Dodd-Frank, nor should we stand by as the Republicans making ****ing over the working class the law. We have to reject these institutions' right to exist in the first place.

I'm just glad that my job is going to get a little easier tbh. Compliant ads take ****ing forever to make.

They both did at different times so that's a correction for your correction

And every senior financial advisor said that allowing the banks to fail would have been utterly catastophic for the economy and the country as a whole. Both Bush and Obama really had no choice.

In Britain we also had a bank bail-out scandal, over a bank called Northern Rock. My understanding is that there's a cycle:

> greedy banks make dodgey investments
> directors take huge bonuses and deflate bank funds
> bank teters on brink of collapse, which would wipe out small customers' savings
> to avoid above, government bails out bank with taxpayers' money
> bank survives, directors are off the hook and return to collecting fat-cat bonuses
> the only net losers are the taxpayers, who as usual have to suck it up

If Dodd-Frank prevents or inhibits that damaging cycle, then it's a mistake to repeal it, I would've thought.

It's huge mistake. Hopefully some republican senators vote their conscious and it fails to get through.

Well, I can think of something. Arrest and imprison the Wall Street Scum. Give the funds they already have back to have savings in hard cash (using the billions that were used to supplement the crooks who stole it in the first place, when needed) and to further help the people and punish the greedy corporate scum forgive all the outstanding (almost always predatory) loans they had a given. In the mean time, honest people could open community banks used how they were meant to be used in the first place.

Or do what was done: funnel billions, maybe trillions over time, to billionaires and then ask stupid ****ing questions like how could Hillary lose. Why don't Americans give a **** about honesty anymore...

Dude, I don't exactly know your story but this mindset that the rich must be protected at all costs is what was used to **** you in the ass.

Re-read my post. Bush and Obama basically had no choice at the time. Did I like it? Of course not. Did I want to see my 401K and home values crash and burn even worse than they already had? No. It's not MY mindset. It was the mindset of financial specialists on how to best handle that absolute disaster in the best interests of the US as a whole.

Were the banks wrong for what they did? Of course. Should they all be in jail? Of course. Is it that easy? Unfornuately not based on how the politicians and rich have set up the rules.

We could have let the banks fail, arrest the CEOs, and felt good about it. But millions and millions of people would have lost everything. Another case of the lesser of two evils.

I read your post. You're buying into the bull**** narrative that you'll have suffer along with the rich. They should have used that bailout money to buy out your 401K and payoff your house and reimburse you for the damage they did to the housing market. People like you should get the bailout not the ****ing billionaires. Everyone's credit card debt should have been erased, home loans, car payments, student debt, and if the bailout didn't cover it start stripping the military.

Who is THEY?

The money spent to bail out the banks, $700 Billion, amounts to nothing compared to what you are suggesting.

The US population is 325 million people. If we assume 50% have lots of normal life debt, $700 billion would have netted me less than $4,500.

It's all about math in the grand scale of things.

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And the real cost of the bailout

Trillions

The real cost of the bailout was $7.7 trillion, and it was given no strings attached from my understanding.