Anteater

See my last post. I actually agree with you mostly. I just didn't go into greater detail before.

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Chula Vista

Jesus Christ dude. He didn't use the word "some". He knew exactly what he was doing by broad brushing an entire country. He said "THEY'RE SENDING US THEIR RAPISTS AND DRUG DEALERS".

You're obviously a really smart guy but every now and then it seems you forget to put your glasses on. He had an agenda that worked perfectly with angry, white, scared, rural America.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Anteater

Unless every person in Mexico is a rapist and a drug dealer, that exact quote still supports what I've said. Also, read my whole post again. I was still adding to it.

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Lucem Ferre

His sexism comes from how he over all treats women even under the spot light. I'm not talking about the "Grab her by the pussy comment" because most of us have said much worse, but how he always talked about appearance when talking about women or claiming that reporter was on her period.

He didn't say some were bad. He said he's sure that a few of them are good.

Kind of like saying, I'm sure a few liberals aren't whiny pussies.
I'm sure a few conservatives aren't in the Klu Klux Klan.
I'm sure a few bands Ellphnor likes have talent.
I'm sure a few girls might sleep with Batlord.
I'm sure a few of Anteater's employees can afford to eat.
I'm sure a few children didn't turn Peter Scully on.
I'm sure a few Nickel Back songs don't make me want to blow my brains out.
I'm sure a few Justin Bieber fans are over 12.

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Key

I was just using a random comparison. I didn't want to make it seem like you were saying it.

I would say in this case, the experiment was based solely on the running and campaign of Donald Trump, and to see what he would do as president. Considering the campaign is over and he continues to try to do what he said he would do as president, I'd say the experiment is nearing a conclusion. At what point are we going to stop making it seem like it's something that could happen, and prepare for what has happened. People like to make the argument that "Trump won't get away with that." But what if he did? Are we just going to stand back and be like "well, it's not that bad." Just wait until people start dying because they can't get health insurance anymore.

My point is, just because none of what he's put forward effects you or some of us in the forum, we can't just assume it means nothing. If you were effected by the travel ban, I imagine your opinion would be vastly different than it is now.

And to Ant: You need to do some further reading if you really believe that Trump isn't as racist or sexist as the media portrays.

Anteater

Should I be paying my guys more than the six figures they already make annually? Sheesh.

Also, I'm just going to share this since it ties into the point I "thought" I got across before.

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Key

^I don't really think you're quite understanding the actual point people are putting across. But it seems rather convenient that you'll tell other people to further their reading but simultaneously not read into media. Is there a source that you're reading that somehow is deemed more factually accurate than what people saw during the campaign? Trump didn't just randomly start being called sexist and racist. He based his campaign on it.

duga

I can see both sides - his supporters are still in "give him a chance" mode and I will admit the media is creaming their pants with the constant headlines berating him.

That being said...now it's a question of risk vs. reward. I feel a lot of his supporters felt the reward would have been worth the potential risk he posed. At this point it's pretty clear that reward we are hoping for is well beyond Trump's capacity. Even if he wanted to accomplish these things, he gets too distracted and he will be blocked at every turn by the Democrats (when they can) and the judiciary. That only leaves risk...having a man as our leader who had no idea the scope of this job is DANGEROUS.

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Stephen

The anti-Trump media bias has really taken on a life of it's own. It really only hurts their credibility and plays into Trump's narrative of not believing anything they say. I mean the guy's an absolute dick and such an easy target but they need to pull back and stick to the facts which make the alternative facts look as ludicrous as they are.

Lucem Ferre

No, it's just an example. We all know every band Elphanor likes has talent, let's be honest here.

No, see, everybody has a bit of prejudice and preconceived stereotypes about people. But we don't all act on it because we can critically think. He made a statement implying that majority of the illegal Mexicans coming into our country are violent criminals putting us at risk. Not only is he acting on racist ideals but he wants to implement policies based on that specific racist idea. A lot of what he says is scarily parallel to a Klan rally. The Klan says the Mexicans have taken this country from the whites. Trump says the illegals have taken this country from real Americans. The Klan says make America white again. Trump says make America great again. The Klan wants to **** their daughters, Trump wants to **** his daughter. Some of it might be a little hyperbolic but it's still there. They both probably wanted to hang Obama too. His whole birther movement was completely racist and would never happen if Obama was white.

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