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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785344)

I'm honestly more interested in hearing counter arguments to research that is plain sight. If you look at Trump's cabinet choices and you're not afraid of what the country will turn into, you haven't been paying attention.

Plain sight is not research, if you researched research then you might know that.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1785346)

Plain sight is not research, if you researched research then you might know that.

Don't cop out because you're in a corner, tell me how you really feel.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785323)

Well you believe what you want. Trump on the other hand has already proved through his cabinet choices that he wants to reverse upwards of 50 years of work starting with reversing a lot of what has happened in the last 8 years. If that's not scary to you, maybe rethink your own opinion.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1785325)

lol please inform us on what happened in the last 8 years that if undone will set the US back 50 years. you're reading too many of the same articles as Chula it seems.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785327)

So he doesn't seem like a threat to you? Perhaps you need to do more reading.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785337)

This forum is gonna be the death of me whether it's from people's own inability to research or my inability to let a stupid argument go.

seriously? you make a bold statement with absolutely ZERO, and i mean literally zero evidence and when i bite, it's my "lack of ability to research?" i'm not even necessarily trying to start an arguement, i just want to know why you would make such a ridiculous claim. if you think it's that obvious then please give me the specifics. what progress made over the last 8 years is so vital to the country that having it reversed will set it back 50 years?

Well let's see

Equal pay for women
Same sex marriage
Lower minimum wage
Women can't get help of raped

Yknow...like it was in the 1940s. The cabinet is full of rich white businessmen who has no political background.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1785365)

damn dude you need to stop reading so many buzzfeed and huff post articles. what do you think trump and his cabinet are going to do, force business' to pay women less? i'm assuming you aren't insinuating that women are just naturally paid less than men because the wage gap has been debunked and explained many years ago.

the right for same sex marriage isn't going to just go away, if you really wanted to go on a point like this it would have been much smarter to use abortion, but that isn't going anywhere either, not on a nation wide scale at least. especially considering, as Anteater already mentioned, Trump used to be a democrat was actually pro choice on the abortion issue. with his flip flopping on both of these issues over the past should really tell you how little he actually cares about these things. he isn't going to make any changes with them, despite what the 'not my president' folks want to tell ya.

and here, read this http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...arriage-231310

idek what that last point is insinuating but that's a societal issue not a presidential one so try again.

If more people read this book and internalized it we could have more legitimate political and socio-political discussion in this thread (and the world) without everyone feeling the desire to make sweeping generalizations on both sides of the political spectrum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Righteous_Mind

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1785388)

this still isn't true women do get paid slightly less on average and are less likely to get a job than a man even when you control for the variable of men working more hours

Nobody on either side actually doubts this, that's why Republicans continually block Democrats attempts to pass a bill to address it

there's also a difference in average wage by race. it's not as cut and paste as because one person is a woman they make less or because one person is black they make less, there are variables that cause these discrepancies in wage. it's a matter of career choice and decision making once you're into the field, it isn't a matter of women just getting less money in their paycheck than men.

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The wage gap is a statistical indicator often used as an index of the status of women's earnings relative to men's. It is also used to compare the earnings of other races and ethnicities to those of white males, a group generally not subject to race- or sex-based discrimination. The wage gap is expressed as a percentage (e.g., in 2013, women earned 78.3% as much as men aged 16 and over) and is calculated by dividing the median annual earnings for women by the median annual earnings for men.

The Equal Pay Act was signed in 1963, making it illegal for employers to pay unequal wages to men and women who hold the same job and do the same work. At the time of the EPA's passage, women earned just 58 cents for every dollar earned by men. By 2013, that rate had increased to 78 cents. Minority women fare the worst. African-American women earn just 64 cents to every dollar earned by white men, and for Hispanic women that figure drops to merely 56 cents per dollar. Asian women are the exception, earning 80 cents for every dollar earned by white men--a sum higher than women of all other races/ethnicities as well as African-American and Hispanic men.

The Institute for Women’s Policy Research looked at a 15-year model and found that women's cumulative earnings show a far greater disparity than annual comparisons. Women’s lower work hours and their years with zero earnings due to family care certainly are factors affecting the report's findings: women workers in their prime earning years earned 62% less than men, or only $0.38 for every dollar men earned. During that 15-year period, the average woman earned only $273,592 while the average man earned $722,693 (in 1999 dollars).

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763170.html

also I'm interested in how you feel this should be fixed. I believe people should be paid on performance and there are times when two people should not be paid the same even if they're in the same position, but that's just me.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1785389)

also I'm interested in how you feel this should be fixed. I believe people should be paid on performance and there are times when two people should not be paid the same even if they're in the same position, but that's just me.

So you believe that bankers should make up fake accounts, cause you know if your judged by "performance" you have to keep up. Making fake accounts is the best way to prove you performing. Gotta meet those expectations of branch managers, or regional managers whoever etc.

I've met a commie who always had the strong chronic though. He should try some of their ****.