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Old 03-08-2017, 03:10 PM   #3061 (permalink)
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Trump's been in bed with Russia for decades. Long before he decided to play politician. The meetings and phone calls between Trump's camp and Russia during the election have been verified. You trying to dismiss them as Trump not being competent enough is just more of your Trump apologism.

Did ya hear about this one?

'The New Yorker' Uncovers Trump Hotel's Ties To Corrupt Oligarch Family : NPR
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Easy all of the people that he surrounds himself with. They are so good at what they do that they have you thinking that obviously he can't be in collusion with Russia because he's a dunce and not a savvy politician. It's the perfect guise really.
Russia is just a strawman. They don't have a fraction of the resources available to our intel agencies. Remember France back in 2011?

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Trump's been in bed with Russia for decades. Long before he decided to play politician. The meetings and phone calls between Trump's camp and Russia during the election have been verified. You trying to dismiss them as Trump not being competent enough is just more of your Trump apologism.

Did ya hear about this one?

'The New Yorker' Uncovers Trump Hotel's Ties To Corrupt Oligarch Family : NPR
That's a nice article and all Chula, but you have to present information that, you know, actually has something to do with what I've said previously. You aren't much of a "big picture" thinker after all when the stuff coming out of Wikileaks is a million times scarier than a country who'd suck us off for those sanctions to get lifted.
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For anyone who doesn't feel like reading this: Trump did business with a company where all he took care of was branding which is not entirely true because (???). One of the people involved with the business deal has speculated ties to Azarpassillo, who are speculated to be a front company for the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. So this deal (which was cancelled) means that Trump violated the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (assuming that all of the assumptions that we made to get to this point aren't just wishful thinking).

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The stuff coming out of Wikileaks is a million times scarier.
Because everything Wikileaks puts out is 100% credible.

And you want to talk about sucking someone off? You've been doing that with Trump for months.

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DAVIDSON: Ivanka, she went once, but from New York, I'm told she was involved in every decision. She was - she was intimately involved. And that's really important for legal reasons that they were so involved.
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They were involved with it until they cancelled the deal, which means that they didn't make a profit off of it.

Smart move from NPR for doing it as an interview with the journalist who wrote the story instead of writing one themselves. Maintains their cred as far as reliable sourcing goes.
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They were involved with it until they cancelled the deal, which means that they didn't make a profit off of it.
Trump backed out at the last minute to save face. Doesn't erase his involvement, and it's a safe assumption that if he'd lost the election he would have kept the deal going.

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The Baku hotel disaster that may be Trump's most disastrous deal ever: Scrapped Azerbaijan project was led by corrupt oligarchs and had links to Iran's Revolutionary Guard
- Trump Tower Baku in Azerbaijan was cancelled by the president in December
- The $35 million project was launched by Azerbaijani family the Mammadovs
- They hold seats in parliament and have ties to Iran's Revolutionary Guard
- Trump agreed to license the family name for the project but did not invest in it
- Ivanka visited in 2014 and is considered a 'dear friend' of Anar Mammadov
- The Mammadovs are widely suspected of corruption in the country
- Anar Mammadov has spent $13 million lobbying US Officials on behalf of the American Azerbaijan Alliance
- Trump cancelled the project before he became president, claiming it was 'house cleaning'
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Trump backed out at the last minute to save face.
He followed the law to save face well how about that let's indict him.

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Doesn't erase his involvement, and it's a safe assumption that if he'd lost the election he would have kept the deal going.
Nah his scandals are like a bed of nails. One would've punctured anyone else's campaign but they kept him afloat.

I wonder, is this the new Benghazi?
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