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DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 09:16 PM

I love when Nea comes in with the random facts. :beer:

djchameleon 02-25-2017 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808685)
The two aren't connected in anyway though

Should everyone who's bad with money not get a driver's license? And do we let the DMV decide that by looking at your finances lol

This isn't just about someone being bad with money. This is a government agency determining that someone is mentally ill to the point that they need someone else to look over their finances. These are generally people that also need help with getting basic daily things done like making sure they shower/clean/etc. There is a big difference between the two.


Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808718)
Automatic weapons and high capacity magazines should be straight banned just like you aren't allowed explosives

But a hand gun or a hunting rifle idk that I can support a complete ban

People don't need them for protection really they just want to own a gun because they like guns

Banning those things doesn't deter people from still obtaining them if they wanted. Also you can still carry out a nice massacre with a hand gun that's way more effective than spray and pray.


Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1808726)
I certainly can get on board with the individual basis, that we can agree on. We can disagree thats what adults do, see Don its possible. There are people who collect guns and those that use them for the wrong reasons, its a real catch 22 though to take away everyones rights.

I might have missed parts of this conversation but when gun control generally pops up it isn't about taking away everyone's rights. I did see a few posters talking about banning all guns in general but that is never on the table when gun control is brought up. It's just a boogie man tactic used by the right to get them riled up about the government coming to take their guns.


Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1809025)
My warning would be very loud and very clear. The upstairs hall light would be on right after I got my gun, and before I dialed 911. Pulling the trigger would be the absolute last resort.

This is not a cavalier issue. Even though a lot of dudes who own guns to make up for having a small dick try to make it one.

I take gun ownership as serious as it can be taken.

You are luck you can do that in Cali. In NY, if you shoot someone breaking into your house you can be charged and sued by the burglar for putting his life at risk.


Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1809112)
Durn. Watching a Trump roast under any circumstances would be epic.

Comedy Central did that a few years ago bro. You are late to the party.


Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809129)
No it doesnt and doing things out of tradition is stupid. Its not his tradition. People getting offended by expectations they force on others is bs and childlike.

yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah, that's fine and all for an individual like yourself but when you step into a job that is inherently traditional. You should follow it regardless of your own personal opinion about traditions. That's like him saying "Oh I don't like traditions so fuck doing an inauguration."

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 10:41 PM

You really give a shit if Trump doesn't go to some dinner? I sure as fuck don't. And I think that's an awfully apples and oranges comparison between a media dinner and an inauguration speech.

Maybe I'm not understanding what all goes on at this dinner, but does him not showing up affect anything? If the answer is no, then I repeat, I do not care.

elphenor 02-25-2017 11:06 PM

No the issue is the uncanny resemblance to authoritarian leaders past and present that attempt to deligitamize free and open media

djchameleon 02-25-2017 11:27 PM

It's leading to how Putin did the same thing but on a more extreme basis when he had the state take over a national tv network.

He went to war with the media in his first year as well for the entire year.

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1809135)
Especially after how Obama belittled him.

Obama belittled him? Wouldn't you agree that the Trumpster asked for it with all of the birther BS and trying his damdest to delegitimize Obama's presidency?

"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones", comes to mind.

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809168)
And I think that's an awfully apples and oranges comparison between a media dinner and an inauguration speech.

It's a Washington institution. Like I said earlier, it's been 35 years since a sitting president missed one and that's only because he'd gotten shot.;_Association

This is just Trump being Trump to keep up his rebel facade with his ever shrinking base. Approval ratings under 40% after only a month in office? :laughing:

DwnWthVwls 02-25-2017 11:41 PM

Yeh i understand that Chula and i did read the wiki. Like i said maybe i just dont understand the consequnces of him not showing. I ger that its viewed as disrespectful(even if i think thats dumb), but if it doesnt actually affect anything idc.

elphenor 02-25-2017 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1809174)

He went to war with the media in his first year as well for the entire year.

All fascists pretty much have to do this if they want any hope of maintaining order

Objective reality ultimately has a true liberal bias

Chula Vista 02-25-2017 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1809179)
but if it doesnt actually affect anything idc.

It further emblazens his zombie followers who truly believe that Trump's problems are all "the media's fault" instead them being Trump consantly stubbing his own damn toes.

Like others have said, deligitimizing the media is step one towards a dictatorship.

That Comedy Central roast a few years ago proved that Trump can dish it out as good as he can take it. He truly impressed me that night. I actually believe he would have loved to have attended but that Bannon convinced him not to to further "the agenda".

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