It wasn't being done tastefully back in 2009. Just google Obama monkey/gorilla and you'll get tons of hits. That type of **** was being plastered on signs at very public rallies 8 years ago. I'm putting the current Trump voting outrage in context to back then. Funny how Fox news and their kind weren't making such a big deal over stuff like this back then but these days they are "disgusted" at Trump pushback.

http://thepeoplescube.com/red/galler...nkey-i6690.jpg

Obama has a tiny dick.

That last one made me giggle though. Bush looks more like a monkey than any of the Obamas imo.

I like what Kyle posted here, the Justice Democrats, representing the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party opposing the Clinton-Cory Booker corporate Democrats.

Well I'm pretty sure no one at Fox condones that. But (I'm guessing) they can't air that kind of stuff either because it would be taken out of context, and made to look like they're for it or however a left leaning news outlet would make it seem. Or it was something flying under the radar because that is not the position of Fox viewers and other conservatives to portrait him like that. Just some fringe group that probably doesn't identify with any political party doing it for their own twisted bemusement.

Politics has been reduced to schoolyard fight, where they act no better than a bunch of fifth graders. Good example is the Tea Party, they were just a conservative movement but they were portaited in the most despicable way by left-leaning comedians and political pundits. They were relentless in there portrayal. If you listen to either side left/right, conservative/liberal or whatever, they are pretty much at polar ends. But then ask one question "are you concern about your country?" I am sure the majority of people on both sides would say "yes." But when it comes to the media-left and how they portrait the right, it's a crime for them to be concern about the country they live in.

That's rich. How about the media right and how they portray the "libtards"? When was the last time you actually watched /listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, or O'Reily going off on the left. The hyperbole, disdain, and repugnance is beyond outrageous.

You think any on the far right media gives a **** about the middle class, women's rights, separation of church and state, fair and honest taxation, the environment, worker safety, the federal infrastructure that the vast majority of blue collar folks rely in order to make a halfway decent living, etc?

You really are Goofle 2.0. Sad.

Well I don't ever recall hearing the word "libtard" ever being used. But I do know a lawyer who calls democrats "Demoncrats." lol at the rivalry between political parties sometimes. :rofl::shycouch:

The media-right has always been talking about the ever declining middle class. They talk about government waste and reducing taxes. They don't see the infridgemnt of church into matters of state the way it is portaited by the media-left. Remind you the church is even for the separation of church and state. That has been the basis of western culture for over a millennium.

Just finished watching it. Thought it was great minus some skepticism about the war on drugs reform and my ignorance of economic policy (i cant just accept his word about the affects the platform will have it i dont understand economics).

Yeh, I was really confused by that comment as well..

Trump should have made them Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Dude I watch Fox news and stuff light Hannity, O'Reilly, and a tiny bit of Limbaugh. I've heard it first hand.

Oh really? Is that why popes throughout history had their own private armies, ordered Crusades and generally tried to run every country from Rome? For hundreds of years the Church was the most powerful single entity in the world, and had its bejewelled fingers in the government of every Christian country, to the point where they could basically order kings to do what the Pope wanted, or they'd be excommunicated. You call that separation of Church and State? And what about Henry VIII?

You really should think before you post.

lulz how on earth did Neap not get funniest member every year?

The fact that Nea continues to successfully troll this forum is mindblowing. You all take the bait as if you've never realized how full of **** he is.

Misspelling every other word was a good hint.

My personal favorite:

Except he actually is a religious nut so I could see him believing that ****, even if he's saying it in a trolly way.

Don't you see? It's the perfect cover.

At least we have actual policy actions to discuss instead of overanalyzing Trump's riffing to hyped up crowds.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a29d7280308f

Like this. This is a bunch of bull****. Obama should have came out as being really really supportive of the pipeline, then Trump would have done the knee jerk response of closing them down.

It's like everything the GOP has wanted the last 8 years and couldn't get he's just handing it over to them without really any hard fast studying of the issues . I mean look at all's he signed just in 1 freaking week? Beyond ridiculous.

The push back on repealing the ACA is already starting to swell and it's pretty bipartisan.



On another note was just thinking of something: Both Linda and I have lots of family and friends back east, most of whom voted for Trump. They are constantly chattering about how they can't wait for the wall! I asked one of them recently how he felt about the fact that Trump had reneged on the whole Mexico's gonna pay for it, 100%, and that now his taxpayer dollars were funding it.

His reply? I'd gladly pay for 2 walls to keep me and my family safe! Now I'm sitting here thinking, I spent the last 20 years living less than 3 miles from the border and have never once been afraid. This dude lives over 3,000 miles away and he paranoid as hell and scared.

Can you say: Successful Fear Mongering 101?

I don't see/hear as much about immigrants being dangerous as I do hear about immigrants being responsible for the ****ty hiring methods of the labor industry in the Southwest(like paying below minimum wage to people who can't report you, high rotation, etc.).

And tbh, if you refine your bubble enough you can end up to believe anything.

I'm going to ask a stupid question now (oh how surprising I hear you all say) but it's something I don't know as I wasn't there, and you may, as you were there. Well, some of you. Anyway...

With all these protests of "not my president", were there not any when Obama was elected? I mean, surely if there could be one event certain to polarise American opinion it would be a black man being elected their commander-in-chief? But did these protests take place? And if not, why all the savage sentiment about Trump? I get people hate him and fear him, and why they would protest, but honestly, if the whites (let's say radical whites) didn't do this over Obama, is it a bit OTT to be doing it over Trump? Sure, you don't agree with his policies and think he will lead America to disaster, but hasn't everyone on the other side thought that if their candidate didn't win?

Go gentle on me: like I say, I'm not American and don't understand these things. We don't got the depth of feeling about politics that you guys have.

Just google "Obama Protests after Election" and then click on images. It beyond brutal. Trump's getting a love tap by comparison.

They did but not anywhere near the same turnout as Trump's protests.

1: it's better to base your actions on what you think would be best, not based on how the other side acted almost a decade ago.
2: media hype shouting that he rapes babies on live TV and gets away with it can whip an echo-chamber resident into a frenzy.

It's a matter of making your voice heard, which is especially important in this divisive election.

The stone-faced irony of Democrats clinging to every Trump conspiracy after eight years of telling Republicans to stfu about king Obama almost makes my head explode.

It absolutely is the same level of childishness.

Final proof that is not needed that neither side is dumber than the other, because all of humankind is dumber than a box of rocks as it is.

Same kind of crowd. Have we already forgotten about the golden showers?

I think you're constructing a, I'm going to say it, false equivalency here.

Donald Trump is on the record has having done: insert laundry list here.

Barack Obama is a black guy with an Arab-sounding middle name.

And unlike the 'birther' claims, there are legitimate links between Trump and Russia. There is no Paul Manafort equivalent for Obama. Much like there is no 'Judge Curiel can't do his job effectively because he's Mexican', 'my political opponent will be in jail once I'm elected', 'Khan's wife couldn't speak in public because she's Muslim', etc. etc. equivalent.

'Yellowatergate' or whatever it's being called, yeah, that's likely nonsense. But it would be acting par for the course if they didn't let that go the entirety of the 4-8 years of Trump's administration. I don't think they should, but the hypocrisy goes both ways here. Probably a bit more toward the Right.

Obama's father was from Kenya, so that would be the equivalent for people to justify taking full advantage of their own confirmation bias.

Trump’s EPA pick blends conservative Christianity with anti-environmental activism: Unlike Christians who believe in ‘creation care,’ Scott Pruitt’s record suggests he believes that God would never allow climate change to happen.

Interesting note is that Scott Pruitt has sued the EPA 8 times in the past. And Trump just announced $800 billion in cuts at the EPA aimed at removing regulations on coal, oil, and gas emissions. He also wants to gut funds that go towards wildlife and environmental protections.

And he's banned all current employees of the EPA from using any forms of social media to discuss the matter.

I'm thinking scorched earth once Trump and his boy's are through with things.

Someone should tell Trump that sustainable energy has the potential to create more jobs (and longer lasting ones) than "clean coal".

But he had a vocal and sensible understanding of Islam that Republicans could have used to justify themselves. You guys got any more of these?

Protecting coal workers' jobs was a massive part of his campaign.

How do you know?

Mr. Snark is back again. It's a ****ing debate between adults. No need to interject your pompous snark. But fire away Mr. Snark.

Ja ja ja I know I'm a terrible person it's been said over and over. Also you owe me a new irony meter for breaking it after not meaningfully contributing to this discussion with that post.

Porque no los dos?

I'll ask again. How do you know that, as you said, "Obama had nothing to do with Islam" You made the claim. I'm just asking how do you know.