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Old 04-14-2017, 03:51 PM   #4021 (permalink)
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You don't see how the destruction and destabilization caused by American bombs create anti-U.S. sentiments? And how this creates a recruitment potential for extremist groups?
Of course I see it, my point is that it doesn't matter what we do this is going to happen anyways. Would you rather let ISIS members live or at least kill off some of them and their operating bases?
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:38 PM   #4022 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2017, 10:11 PM   #4023 (permalink)
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Anything the US does is going to be used as propaganda for extremists.
The U.S. is directly responsible for producing the majority of propaganda and distributing it. They are behind the fake beheading videos.

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I think he means that if Trump/America want to be seen to be a democratic state then it's going to backfire if they just drop bombs on their enemies without any sanctions or discussion.
The U.S. is not a democracy, it is a constitutionally-limited democratic republic. But I agree 100% with your sentiments.

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You don't see how the destruction and destabilization caused by American bombs create anti-U.S. sentiments? And how this creates a recruitment potential for extremist groups?

Also, on North Korea: it's a ****ing terrible regime, but they're not exactly a threat to world peace. The main reason they've been developing nuclear weapons is to stave off a U.S. invasion.
The U.S. is creating it's own enemies. This is by design. Gotta proliferate the military-industrial complex.
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:57 PM   #4024 (permalink)
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The U.S. is directly responsible for producing the majority of propaganda and distributing it. They are behind the fake beheading videos.
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:08 AM   #4025 (permalink)
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The U.S. is directly responsible for producing the majority of propaganda and distributing it. They are behind the fake beheading videos.
I agree that it's fishy, but there's no need to construct conspiracy theories.

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Of course I see it, my point is that it doesn't matter what we do this is going to happen anyways. Would you rather let ISIS members live or at least kill off some of them and their operating bases?
Hate doesn't arise from nowhere. Middle-Eastern extremists hate the U.S. specifically because of their role in destabilizing the region. "It doesn't matter what we do" is a ridiculous claim. What if the U.S. was to slash military spending and use that money of healthcare instead? Do you think that would be seen as a provocation? Of course it wouldn't.

Besides, Syria, Russia, and the Kurdish YPG are already fighting ISIS. U.S. involvement in the Syrian conflict is not helping at all - the recent U.S. bombing of a Syrian military base is proof of this. The best thing the U.S. can do to weaken ISIS (if that's even what they want) is to cease their military involvement in Syria.
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I agree that it's fishy, but there's no need to construct conspiracy theories.
They're beheading fish now?
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