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Old 04-06-2017, 11:54 PM   #4391 (permalink)
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Kudos to Trump for this. Gotta give him props this time around.
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Old 04-06-2017, 11:56 PM   #4392 (permalink)
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because intervention always works out so well for us

and we've always done it for moral reasons nothing to worry about here
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:35 AM   #4393 (permalink)
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because intervention always works out so well for us

and we've always done it for moral reasons nothing to worry about here
No one's saying we haven't made blunders in the past, I'm sure we all understand that, but by using chemical weapons for years and killing 400,000 civilians at this point by a regime run by a dictator, (not to mention ISIS to make things worse) fuck yeah, let's blow their shit up because you know why? Because any other country won't step up to the plate to help these people out and America always saves the day.

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I wish I could share your naivety or maybe you suffer from amnesia I can't say

"blunders in the past"

you mean our gov has lied to justify illegal wars
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Old 04-07-2017, 04:51 AM   #4395 (permalink)
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So that's me off the Trump train, not that those wheels weren't falling off already. Shame.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer him infinitely to Clinton or Obama for other reasons, but I can't support somebody bombing the **** out of other countries. Especially when based on a flimsy narrative with hardly any time to consider what actually happened.
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Let's save those Syrian citizens by killing swathes of civilians. That'll show Assad!
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Let's save those Syrian citizens by killing swathes of civilians. That'll show Assad!
I don't know if I should be upset this is the same old Bush style limp penis tit for tat military maneuver or relieved.
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So that's me off the Trump train, not that those wheels weren't falling off already. Shame.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer him infinitely to Clinton or Obama for other reasons, but I can't support somebody bombing the **** out of other countries. Especially when based on a flimsy narrative with hardly any time to consider what actually happened.
Yeah, there definitely needed to be an investigation conducted by the UN beforehand
(even if the UN are as insufficient as it gets)
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Is there any doubt Assad has been killing his own citizens for a while now? I mean...Obama sought congressional approval for action back in 2013. It's not like the situation has improved. Something's got to be done.

Leave it to Trump to create an incredibly conflicting situation out of something I thought I had a pretty firm stance on. I support action in Syria - especially now since the rest of the world pretty much assumes we are useless under Trump. We need to show we are still a country that won't tolerate not just civil rights abuses but outright mass murder of a country's citizens. But taking action without congressional approval? Come ON...this is the same slippery slope we got on with Vietnam! And I still feel Johnson was infinitely more competent than Trump!

There's got to be some reason for this change. I highly doubt Trump saw pictures of dead kids and his heart went out to them. Sorry, buddy...if you had shown a shred of decency or compassion in the past year I may have bought it. Could this be because Trump has realized Bannon and Preibus have caused so much damage, it's time to throw the Dems a bone? Is he trying to establish a war so that people back off the Russia investigation (never good to have a wartime commander in chief that's under investigation)? Or is Trump so easily influenced by those his have his ear that we see extreme action like this out of the blue (looking at you, Kushner)?

I'm just so confused right now.
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We have been taking military actions without congressional approval since Bush Jr.'s been in office.
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