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Frownland 05-19-2017 05:47 PM

I'm saying don't let public opinion shape your own. I hope you agree.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1837516)
I'm saying don't let public opinion shape your own. I hope you agree.

I'm not stupid dude. I follow lots of news. I form opinions based on lots of input. Go listen to Beiber.

Goofle 05-19-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1837512)
obstruction of justice is totally illegal, regardless of whether it's even a big deal

There's no proof that he's done this. Like, none. He fired a guy.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1837520)
There's no proof that he's done this. Like, none. He fired a guy.

He's admitted to firing a guy who was heading up an investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russia leading up to a presidential election to relive the pressure on him and Russia to Russian officials in the White House oval office. His spokespeople are not denying that fact.

Always disliked Alan Dershowich after the whole OJ trial, but I seriously think the guy has gone senial. The arguments he is trying to make are being ripped to shreds by pretty much everyone.

Goofle 05-19-2017 05:57 PM

He was the director of the FBI. Investigations continue with or without him. You know this. It wasn't an issue, aside from the way it was done.

In fact, more and more random investigations seem to crop up every week or so.

Chula Vista 05-19-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1837524)
He was the director of the FBI. Investigations continue with or without him. You know this. It wasn't an issue, aside from the way it was done.

He told the Russian officials that by firing Comey he took the pressure off both him and Russia. What part of that does not register with you?

Frownland 05-19-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1837519)
I'm not stupid dude.

You just tried to equate frequency with validity so you might be wrong on that.

I don't think anyone is denying the real world effect that news can have. When you point at the news as reasoning for something being a relevant issue, that's where the illogic strikes (this carries on to my point that (potentially beliebing) heads exploding doesn't equal real world impact).

Goofle 05-19-2017 06:04 PM

As I said, Trump needs to sort out his own house. The guy is putting out some very weird and mixed messages. But the simple fact is that the investigation doesn't disappear because he fired some guy you wanted gone a while ago.

Frownland 05-19-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1837529)
As I said, Trump needs to sort out his own house. The guy is putting out some very weird and mixed messages. But the simple fact is that the investigation doesn't disappear because he fired some guy you wanted gone a while ago.

That makes me wonder: are unsuccessful/never would be successful obstructions of justice illegal?

Now for a bout of that fun legal research to see if that was a dumb question or not.

Frownland 05-19-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1837531)
That makes me wonder: are unsuccessful/never would be successful obstructions of justice illegal?

Now for a bout of that fun legal research to see if that was a dumb question or not.

That was quite a question there, dumbass. However, the legal definition opens up two more questions.

"A: Obstruction may consist of any attempt to hinder the discovery, apprehension, conviction or punishment of anyone who has committed a crime. The acts by which justice is obstructed may include bribery, murder, intimidation, and the use of physical force against witnesses, law enforcement officers or court officials."

So did Trump bribe, murder, intimidate, or use physical force against Comey or do anything that might be defined as such? And is the first definition that popped into google incomplete?


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