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Frownland 04-28-2017 02:23 PM

It's no revelation that, despite the rhetoric, Dems have a long term and passionate romance with Wall Street.

Isbjørn 04-28-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1829041)
I probably agree with their ideas in those articles, but those aren't very reliable sources.

You may be right, I've been hearing bad things about the Daily Mail. I rarely read it. The second one has a clear political agenda (which I'm biased towards). I never heard about the last one before. I didn't think too much about it, I just did a quick Google search and read through a couple of articles I found. I'm sure there are many more reliable sources out there supporting the same claims.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1829045)
It's no revelation that, despite the rhetoric, Dems have a long term and passionate romance with Wall Street.

How about rejecting both the Dems and the GOP? Just a thought.

Chula Vista 04-28-2017 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1829043)
This article.

https://www.vice.com/en_us

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Speaking for money is a very large industry. Many people participate in it—journalists, thinkers, college professors, former politicians, consultants of all stripes. Speaking agents routinely field requests from people who are staging events—for profit, for charity, for client entertainment, for education, for employee morale. Many of us, including me, participate in this economy. The fees range all over the place, but it’s extremely lucrative. It’s harder to make more money legally in an hour than you can giving a speech.

The more in-demand you are, the more someone values your presence, the more tickets a producer might be able to sell, the more clients that might be impressed, the greater the entertainment value, the higher the price your agent commands in the market. And, like sports and other entertainment industries, there is a superstar economy. If you’re a company with $50,000 to spend on a speech, you’ll hire Tom Friedman or Malcolm Gladwell. If you have $5,000 or $10,000, you’ll settle for a less luminous nonfiction writer who is an expert on economic and business topics. But there are only so many ex-presidents. So it’s no surprise that the price corporations will pay for Obama, a popular and highly successful ex-president and one of the best orators of our day, is high. There’s a reason Obama’s asking price is $400,000 and George W. Bush gets about $100,000. It’s also no surprise that a firm working in an industry in which conspicuous consumption is a measure of self-worth was the first out of the gate to book Obama.
Even CNN's Republican pundits Kayleigh McEnany and Paris Dennard agreed last night that this is much ado about nothing, and both would do it for a ton less money.

Grasping at straws 101.

Frownland 04-28-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn (Post 1829053)
I'm sure there are many more reliable sources out there supporting the same claims.

I'm sure of it. I'm just not about that bias, ya know.

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How about rejecting both the Dems and the GOP? Just a thought.
Way ahead of ya. I guess I talk more **** on the Dems here because people have the GOP ****-talking taken care of. Plus, a Democrat was at the point of discussion here.

Isbjørn 04-28-2017 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1829063)
I'm sure of it. I'm just not about that bias, ya know.

Obvious bias doesn't really support my point, either. But I doubt that the editors of the Daily Mail share my political leanings.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1829063)
Way ahead of ya. I guess I talk more **** on the Dems here because people have the GOP ****-talking taken care of. Plus, a Democrat was at the point of discussion here.

I wasn't really directing it at you, it was more of a general remark. ;)

Chula Vista 04-28-2017 03:03 PM

To further my point, during Obama's 8 years as President he was a ton more tougher on Wall Street than GWB during his 8 years. He went along with bail outs to fix Bush's wrongs, because every single economic adviser back then were saying that if those firms failed, the entire USA economy would've totally melted down.

He's a private citizen with no power to impact any policy, laws, or influence over Wall Street or big banks. That's Trump's job at the moment. Let's not lose the focus on that.

Private citizen offered $400K to make a speech? No ****ing brainer.

OccultHawk 04-28-2017 03:08 PM

The US government should offer free welfare for life for anyone willing to be sterilized before the age of 20.

Instead of rewarding people for having children they can't afford be proactive to prevent it.

Frownland 04-28-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1829072)
To further my point, during Obama's 8 years as President he was a ton more tougher on Wall Street than GWB during his 8 years.

That bar is so low that it's underground.

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Private citizen offered $400K to make a speech? No ****ing brainer.
No brain is what it takes to think that Obama isn't being a hypocrite here.

elphenor 04-28-2017 03:20 PM

I'm not a Democrat but they are the lesser of two evils in a system that can not support a third party

We have to take action to make the Dems accountable again

The GOP drank the kool-aid fully and wouldn't even need corporate money to represent Wall St.

DwnWthVwls 04-28-2017 03:24 PM

So basically you're okay with Democrats who make bad decisions starving to death.


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