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djchameleon 01-04-2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1790793)
Trump has nothing to worry about, he just has to take the blame, and I don't think he gives a fuck about personal criticism. Just another scapegoat.

He does give a **** about personal criticism. Have you ever seen his Twitter? I don't think you have. He can't even take a parody skit from SNL without getting massively butthurt and tweeting about it. He tried to sue Bill Maher for saying he had tiny hands. Come on now!

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1790841)
Goofle is against feminism? I never really got that from him. Pretty sure he supports equal rights for both sexes, but is more interested in men's rights. I think most of the rational people on this forum have bad things to say about the modern feminist movement, but not feminism itself.

You don't know Goofle's views on feminism. He takes the fringe views of modern feminism and paints the entire group with a single brush. He doesn't separate the reasonable feminists from the extremists.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1790842)
I know youll hate to hear it Goof, but a food stamp carrying white trailer guy will vote to spite himself if it means he can take something from minorities in the process

:clap: They vote against their own self interest just to stop another group when it will ultimately hurt them.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1790848)
When he first started posting meninist videos I thought he was joking they were so ridiculous. I really didn't think he could possibly agree with what he was posting. Then I realized he did. It's not like he made one post and all of a sudden everyone turned against him. We legit didn't think he was serious.

This.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1790853)
They were 2 different points. The first was a general comment about why it's appropriate to judge someone for their political views. The second was about Goofle's misinterpreted(I assume) view of feminism.

You assume wrong sir.

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1790876)
Actually the facts back up most men's rights issues. But it usually takes a feelings over facts argument to convince people to care.

Anyway, I only came in to annoy somebody with that "immoral leftist" line. Guess it worked and bad mod etc. now let's get back to shitting on Trump before this thread is any more derailed.

This is my thread and I will let it ride even if you are being sarcastic. It is more of an open thread for discussion. It isn't currently being derailed imo.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1790884)
Def. Women aren't given primary custody because of feminism. They're given primary custody cause men think women are the more caring parents.

Primary custody is given to the more responsible parent. If a man or woman isn't in the position to take care of their offspring responsibly then they won't get custody. The fact that it leans more to woman than man just shows that those specific men suck ass and need not be anywhere near their children.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1790960)
I just don't want to hear anymore of the American "why does the gov take so much of my money" whiny bitch syndrome

This is at least half of Republican voters I think

It's like getting nice and full at a restaurant and then being all outraged when the waiter drops the bill

All the services that got you well off cost our money

I was coming in the post something similar. Republicans scream about wanting small government while taking full advantage of all the current services that help them but not wanting to contribute to the system. They also love all the corporate welfare but god forbid someone poor actually needs slight assistance they are the devil and their funding needs to be cutoff and discontinued for being lazy slobs sucking off the system.

Frownland 01-04-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1791030)
Primary custody is given to the more responsible parent. If a man or woman isn't in the position to take care of their offspring responsibly then they won't get custody. The fact that it leans more to woman than man just shows that those specific men suck ass and need not be anywhere near their children.

That is the ideal and I really hope that those cases make up more of the statistics than I realize but there are a LOT of women who get the child over men simply because they are a woman. It's an inherent bias thing. Example: my friend's sister has custody of her kid despite being an unemployed tweaker while the boy's father has been clean for twenty years and has no criminal history. They've been fighting for the kid for years now.

Science!

DwnWthVwls 01-04-2017 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1791032)
That is the ideal and I really hope that those cases make up more of the statistics than I realize but there are a LOT of women who get the child over men simply because they are a woman. It's an inherent bias thing. Example: my friend's sister has custody of her kid despite being an unemployed tweaker while the boy's father has been clean for twenty years and has no criminal history. They've been fighting for the kid for years now.

Science!

Yeh, this is a pretty standard anecdote.. I'd be interesting in seeing some stats as well, but I don't care enough to look it up.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1791030)
He tried to sue Bill Maher for saying he had tiny hands. Come on now!

The fucking idiot worships money. Ofc he'll sue to get some if he can.

As for the Goofle stuff, Idk, I haven't been active for those discussions. I was just commenting on my own interactions and what I've personally read by him.

DwnWthVwls 01-04-2017 03:03 AM

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djchameleon 01-04-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1791032)
That is the ideal and I really hope that those cases make up more of the statistics than I realize but there are a LOT of women who get the child over men simply because they are a woman. It's an inherent bias thing. Example: my friend's sister has custody of her kid despite being an unemployed tweaker while the boy's father has been clean for twenty years and has no criminal history. They've been fighting for the kid for years now.

Science!

I guess it depends on the state but if that were to happen in NY state there is no way that she would have been able to have custody of the kid. I think I heard something about different states favoring women over men more and vice versa. So it's not a clean cut and dry issue. If I have some free time later I will look up some stats state by state to see if what I'm saying is true. I feel like it is though but just like your example it's purely based off of an anecdote for now.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1791042)



The fucking idiot worships money. Ofc he'll sue to get some if he can.

I get that but doesn't explain him being a crybaby all the time about SNL or even his twitter spat with Rose O Donnell. He cares way too much imo.

Anteater 01-04-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1791062)
I get that but doesn't explain him being a crybaby all the time about SNL or even his twitter spat with Rose O Donnell. He cares way too much imo.

No, people just pay way too much attention to what he tweets and the negative feedback he receives only continues to validate him. Troll tactics 101. Hence he controls the conversation and ends up getting everyone's attention time and time again. The media (and to a lesser extent, most of you) continue to get played by him and you don't even realize that this is a major factor in how he won in the first place. As the meme goes, "Trump is playing 4D chess on a 2D board". In a weird way, its actually pretty brilliant: other countries who normally hold the upper hand against us are now scrambling to figure out how to deal with the United States because Trump's tweeting strategy has changed the power dynamic so much.

djchameleon 01-04-2017 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1791077)
No, people just pay way too much attention to what he tweets and the negative feedback he receives only continues to validate him. Troll tactics 101. Hence he controls the conversation and ends up getting everyone's attention time and time again. The media (and to a lesser extent, most of you) continue to get played by him and you don't even realize that this is a major factor in how he won in the first place. As the meme goes, "Trump is playing 4D chess on a 2D board".

Ah you are one of "those", that thinks he's way smarter than he's letting on. My main point which was a rebuttal of DWV's point is that he does care based off of how he responds to petty little things that happen. We weren't talking about him wanting publicity whether it is good or bad.

Anteater 01-04-2017 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1791079)
Ah you are one of "those", that thinks he's way smarter than he's letting on. My main point which was a rebuttal of DWV's point is that he does care based off of how he responds to petty little things that happen. We weren't talking about him wanting publicity whether it is good or bad.

He's definitely smarter than he's letting on, to the point where it's actually rather difficult to tell sometimes what he truly believes outside of general sentiments of wanting to bring jobs back to the U.S. and dealing with the trade deficit (which he has been talking about since the 80's). He gave interviews throughout the 80's and early 90's that demonstrated his intelligence, so even having a discussion about whether or not he's smart doesn't really make sense because anyone who has watched an interview with him when he was younger knows he's smart.

Trump responds to petty stuff because he finds it entertaining to do so. He enjoys the attention, plus his personal brand is intertwined with his aggressive nature, so he just rolls with it because he knows it'll make headlines. In that sense, I guess he does care...at least for a second or two.

Sometimes when I see Trump related news or the various hit pieces, I feel like I'm watching a politically oriented second season of the anime The Irresponsible Captain Tylor. That was a series where nobody could figure out if the main character was a complete idiot or a genius with incredibly sharp underlying instincts: the evidence leaned towards the latter, but you could make a case for each. Either way, he was surrounded by opposition and even his own bosses periodically tried to undermine him to no avail. :rofl:

Frownland 01-04-2017 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1791079)
Ah you are one of "those", that thinks he's way smarter than he's letting on. My main point which was a rebuttal of DWV's point is that he does care based off of how he responds to petty little things that happen. We weren't talking about him wanting publicity whether it is good or bad.

I don't think that he's politically intelligent like the job requires, but the man is a marketing legend and that's really undeniable.

Frownland 01-04-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1791086)
He's definitely smarter than he's letting on, to the point where it's actually rather difficult to tell sometimes what he truly believes outside of general sentiments of wanting to bring jobs back to the U.S. and dealing with the trade deficit (which he has been talking about since the 80's). He gave interviews throughout the 80's and early 90's that demonstrated his intelligence, so even having a discussion about whether or not he's smart doesn't really make sense because anyone who has watched an interview with him when he was younger knows he's smart.

To be fair, that was 30 years ago and he does seem to be knocked down a peg in his old age. His rallies really do make him sound senile too.


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