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elphenor 01-07-2017 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1792204)
He's just a winner.

Damn you really drinking the kool-aid

I almost expect you to refer to Trump as Dear Leader

Dear Leader Trump could hit 18 holes in one in a row because he's just a winner

Anteater 01-07-2017 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1792198)
When was this exactly? In the 50s? Please, I'm so tired of hearing about how the big bad media is twisting things. People are acting like this is a new thing and even when facts are presented in a balanced manner, if it says something negative that they don't agree with. The whines continue about the media.

CNN is owned by Time Warner who donated huge amounts of money to Hillary Clinton's campaign. And they aren't the only ones either. I don't think what I said is unreasonable....but you'd have to actually, you know, do some research. Editors of publications like Vanity Fair, The Huffington Post and Vogue also contributed to her campaign.

There are a lot of people concerned about Russia and their influence (which is minimal at best unless you were somebody who got all your news from Facebook), but I'm more concerned about a media that appears to be mostly bought and paid for by the left. I don't like Fox News, Breitbart, etc. either, but I'm aware of all the agendas at play before I ever look at an article.

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1792242)

CNN has been a lot more balanced this election cycle by hiring Trump/GOP supporters to be part of their discussion panels.

Scottie Nell Hughes, Corey Lewandowski, Kayleigh McEnany, Jeffery Lord, and Jack Kingston are all featured nightly to counter the liberal opinion.

So how come we're not discussing the US Intelligence Report that was released yesterday that concluded that Russia/Putin was behind the hacking for the main purpose of hurting Clinton
and helping Trump? Pretty ****ing major news if you asked me. Have ya all seen this?

And in other news:


Conservative author and television personality Monica Crowley, whom Donald Trump has tapped for a top national security communications role, plagiarized large sections of her 2012 book, a CNN KFile review has found.

The review of Crowley’s June 2012 book, "What The (Bleep) Just Happened," found upwards of 50 examples of plagiarism from numerous sources, including the copying with minor changes of news articles, other columnists, think tanks, and Wikipedia. The New York Times bestseller, published by the HarperCollins imprint Broadside Books, contains no notes or bibliography.

Crowley did not return a request for comment. Multiple requests for comment by phone and email over the past two days to HarperCollins went unreturned.

Crowley, a syndicated radio host, columnist, and, until recently, a Fox News contributor, will serve as Trump’s senior director of strategic communications for the National Security Council.

Trollheart 01-07-2017 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1791884)
How dare you classify all of us on this forum as poor American taxpayers? Some of us are rich Canadian non-taxpayers.

And Irish. So there.


riseagainstrocks 01-07-2017 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1792188)
People being weary of drug gang members or islamic terrorists entering the country is not "anti-immigrant" nor "anti-islamic." But that is how they are portrayed by the left-wing media as "anti-immigrant" and "anti-islamic."

What Trump said on the campaign trail is nothing that hasn't been brought up before within Conservative talk shows dynamic about real issues, real events. There is a whole backstory to them. Trump blurts fragments of those issues and gets picked up by the media twisted. And maybe he can be faulted for not articulating his position more clearly. But I am certain the media will demonize him on soundbites anyway.

I'm for immigration reform; on both sides of the issue. Path to citizenship for those who were born here and have been here for years, deportation for those convicted of crimes, more scrutiny on entrants etc. But you can be for those things an not make outrageous statements regarding the motivations and lives of migrants. That's what upsets me.

This link is from CNN, but they are just collating government documents. When you read the dailywire or Fox News articles they make a lot of statements, but link to other newspapers, no actual figures. I encourage you to bring the scale of the issue into focus - there are no barbarian hordes at the gate: Immigrants and crime: Crunching the numbers -
(last updated July 2015)


Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1792188)
That goes both ways. If Trump said "beware of wolves in sheep's clothing" he would be accused of being "anti-sheep" by CNN.

Kind of like Hillary fainting while sick and in the heat is indicative of rampant brain disease and massive conspiracy, etc etc? The media has a bias towards conflict, and Trump's persona and poor discipline invite conflict. He says a Mexican judge can't be impartial because he's Mexican people react negatively, some positively, that invites more conflict and everyone makes money link


Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1792188)
Whoever tagged "milo <3" kudos to you for having a mind of your own, and for not being stuck in the far-left's "echo chamber."

Milo shouldn't be silenced, much like David Irving shouldn't be. Let them air their ugly ideas, twisted statistics, and double standards so they can be met with facts and argument. That's why I'd like some change in the law to be able to prosecute people who intentionally distort.

Frownland 01-07-2017 01:09 PM

Lol @ defending CNN.

riseagainstrocks 01-07-2017 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792301)
Lol @ defending CNN.

Considering it was called the 'Clinton News Network' and I wanted people to click on the link to see the sourcing, I felt the need to. I mean, if you think DOJ, BLS, FBI, et. all statistics are cooked then it won't do you any good. But I have greater confidence in a summary and link to hard data that anyone can examine than a circular pattern of conservative news story linking to another and another all making outlandish claims but not providing any data.

That could just be my research background, though

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792301)
Lol @ defending CNN.

**** off. When was the last time you even watched them? Speaking from ignorance is quite the hobby for you, huh?


Over the course of the 2016 election, CNN hired four Trump supporters -- Kayleigh McEnany, Scottie Nell Hughes, Jeffrey Lord and former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski -- explicitly to defend Trump on air. While on CNN, Lord defended Trump’s attacks against a Gold Star family and turned a discussion of Trump’s hesitance to disavow David Duke into an argument about whether Democrats used to support the KKK. Lewandowski has revived Trump’s birther claims against President Obama and recommending that the Republican nominee sue The New York Times “into oblivion.” McEnany defended Trump’s claim that Obama is the “founder of ISIS,” Hughes attacked Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Tim Kaine’s use of Spanish, and both Hughes and McEnany have defended Trump against multiple sexual assault accusations.

Lewandowski in particular has been an ethical nightmare for CNN; he likely has a non-disparagement agreement with the Trump campaign, was hired while he was still being paid severance by Trump’s campaign, has continued to do “consulting work” for Trump, and recently joined the campaign for events in Maine and New Jersey.

Cuthbert 01-07-2017 01:22 PM

lol Chula's borderline abusive posts >>>

Goofle 01-07-2017 01:32 PM

Clinton News Network :D

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