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elphenor 05-09-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1833557)
We are talking about different things here. The stimulus package (ARRA) you are talking about for '09 was in the works prior to Obama's ascension, though a lot of cooperation with holdovers from the Bush admins. was involved since the writing of it was finished after the transition period. It didn't come out of a vacuum. It wasn't a popular move when Bush was on his way out and it wasn't popular when Obama stepped up either, but it was a decent attempt to "stem the bleeding" that built on what Bush (as you pointed out) had attempted to address. For all intents and purposes though, it was the result of some degree of bi-partisanship.

Dems would have passed it and they did once they had a majority

Anteater 05-09-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1833553)
I guess I'll shout it out to get through your ear wax.

I'M NOT HERE FOR A DEBATE.

I'M NOT HERE FOR A DEBATE.



That's my freedom of choice. I'm not trying to take it away from anyone else.

And yes, calling a grown man a child as a way to try and bolster your argument is being a dickweed. Your lame ass retort trying to defend it is also a bit dickweedish.

I gotta go check Websters.....

1. I showcase a well researched Vice article that makes good points about Obama and slams Trump. You don't bother to read it and call me names and act like a child when you don't get your way.

2. Proceeds to insult other people who call you out on your bullshit. You tell other people to look at the big picture but when they do they're just Trump apologists.

3. Cries like a toddler "I don't wanna debate1111" but proceeds to pigeonhole everything I "supposedly" am (AKA someone you don't know) without reading anything that is actually said.

4. Freaks out emotionally every other post and cries out "BAN ME" to the mods when cornered.

You can't have it both ways Chula. Are you going to be an adult or are you going to cry foul every time you get called out on your flawed thought process?

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1833562)
Dems would have passed it and they did once they had a majority

Yep. All I was saying was that a lot more went into it than people realize.

Frownland 05-09-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1833560)
Person A submits a point.
Person B submits a counterpoint.
Person A doesn't buy it and states so and why.

(put a little edit at the end)

That actually sounds like constructive discussion to me.

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If this is what you call a fight then you've obviously never been punched in the face a few times.

(and if that's the case, I think it would do you some good)
Verbal fighting is still fighting, I'm kind of confused why you think it wouldn't be just because there isn't any physical violence.

Also FYI: wanting to resolve a disagreement with your fists instead of your words is about as childish as you can get. If you don't want people to call you a child, maybe stop acting like one.

Chula Vista 05-09-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1833561)
Childish too.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/59/5930d...938a3352c0.jpg

Pet_Sounds 05-09-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1833548)
Here's something I've been curious about...

Since Trump has no filter, loves to insult people, and has generally taken a giant dump on the generally accepted political etiquette, has this changed politics in the US for good? Is it now open season to straight up insult and demean your opponent? Will our future presidents be expected to personally tweet? Or do you think things will go back to "normal" once Trump is out?

Personally? I think that, after four (or possibly eight—hopefully not) years of Trump, the ad hominem effect will wear off. People will want somebody more respectful.

Mind you, that's also what I hope will happen, so I'm hardly an objective speculator.

Frownland 05-09-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1833591)
Personally? I think that, after four (or possibly eight—hopefully not) years of Trump, the ad hominem effect will wear off. People will want somebody more respectful.

Mind you, that's also what I hope will happen, so I'm hardly an objective speculator.

My guess is that we'll see a return to form similar to what you describe here, except that attempts to crack social media will still be prevalent. I also see us abandoning pointless standards of presidential decorum (like the president taking a call from someone who our besties thinks is a big meanie or that the president MUST attend [x] event). As far as tweeting goes, I hope it fizzles out because of how often the media portrays tweets as presidential decrees that are on the same level as executive orders when they're just shitposts at heart that shouldn't be overanalyzed.

Chula Vista 05-09-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1833595)
I also see us abandoning pointless standards of presidential decorum (like the president taking a call from someone who our besties thinks is a big meanie or that the president MUST attend [x] event). As far as tweeting goes, I hope it fizzles out because of how often the media portrays tweets as presidential decrees that are on the same level as executive orders when they're just shitposts at heart that shouldn't be overanalyzed.

I see the opposite. With each passing day the masses are getting more and more tired of the circus, and his base is shrinking. The buyers remorse denial is getting harder and harder to deny. And it's not even been a third of his first year.

There's serious controversy over him and Russia, Ivanka and her business ties, Kushner and his business ties, Flynn has become a serious albatross, his US taxpayer spending for personal reasons is beyond ridiculous and without precendent, and he simply comes off as a bufoon over and over again.

Who the **** was waiting for his NINE tweets about Sally Yates after her testimony yesterday?

The circus tent is about to come down.

Frownland 05-09-2017 02:50 PM

I'm a little confused by what you mean. You think that the importance/rate of presidential tweets will grow? Or are you talking about respect for decorum...increasing? And both of these things because his fanbase is dwindling?

djchameleon 05-09-2017 03:47 PM

Oh snaps James Comey has been fired!

Frownland 05-09-2017 03:49 PM

I'm surprised he made it this long tbh. His attempts to sway the election were blatant.


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