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DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:27 PM

44000 is ~1.6% of total deaths in the US going by 2014 census data. So really its a miniscule contribuor of life expectancy.

OccultHawk 05-14-2017 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1835591)
Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US. Each year over 44,000 people kill themselves in this country. That does not include drug overdoses, drunk driving accidents, etc.

You should move here Goofle.

This is the likely end for both of us, isn't it?

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1835592)
what's cool about those tribes is you don't need a credit card to receive care and/or get medical advice

the bold is true however

our culture is partially responsible too (we're over-consumptive, there's a whole other discussion about why that is)

the fact that an entire country of people can have a health problem ie obesity means it makes no sense to label it as a personal responsibility issue, how is this not obvious to you

I love your generalizations.. You say entire country when the reality is closer to 33% of the country (for various reasons). Keep trying though. The truth is our healthcare system is very low on the totem pole when it comes to reasons Americans are unhealthy. Culture, big business, lack of nutrition education, etc are all bigger concerns.

elphenor 05-14-2017 09:37 PM

do you understand preventative care and why we don't practice it in our country

obviously you know I don't mean 100% of people are fat

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:39 PM

Sure, but why don't you make an argument for it anyway with your naive 2 years of poli sci education that allows you to be an expert on all the worlds problems.

elphenor 05-14-2017 09:41 PM

these are things that should not require a college education to understand

I went in knowing that our healthcare is not designed to make people healthy that's against the profit motive

where as in gov run/single payer healthcare you take great lengths to increase the health of your populace because it saves money

for example doctors are awarded bonuses based on how many of their patients quit smoking

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:45 PM

That's fine. I agree with you, I hate big pharma as well, but that greed is still not the primary factor in the overall health of the US pop that you are making it out to be (or at least I haven't been shown any convincing evidence of this).

Chula Vista 05-14-2017 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1835593)
44000 is ~1.6% of total deaths in the US going by 2014 census data. So really its a miniscule contribuor of life expectancy.

Wasn't really my point, especially since a lot of suicides are committed by middle aged or older people. Just not a subject to be taken flippantly.

elphenor 05-14-2017 09:50 PM

Yeah I thought the point was yet again Goofle didn't really know anything about the US and the results of these right wing policies he desperately clings to

DwnWthVwls 05-14-2017 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1835606)
Wasn't really my point, especially since a lot of suicides are committed by middle aged or older people. Just not a subject to be taken flippantly.

Agreed, just bringing it back to Kiii getting upset about Goofs earlier comment (he wasn't wrong).


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