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The Batlord 04-08-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1821298)
We already have the answer it's called Democracy

Democracy is perfectly suitable for taking ants from anthills. (Are we talking about direct, communist democracy btw?)

Chula Vista 04-08-2017 06:21 PM

Haves keep setting up the world so they keep getting.

Have nots don't really have a say in the matter at the end of the day.

It's very simple, and has been for centuries all over the planet.

Outraged idealism doesn't count for jack ****, never has, and never will.

Psy-Fi 04-08-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1821294)
I imagine the whole idea of "mine, mine, mine" is so pervasive throughout human history/pre-history that your (possible) ideas of abolishing it are laughable. People want ****. People have a habit of figuring out how to get ****. It's how we figured out how to use sticks to get ants out of anthills for food. Lo and behold we have Wallstreet.

"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."

― Frank Zappa

OccultHawk 04-08-2017 06:22 PM

It killed Marie Antoinette

OccultHawk 04-08-2017 06:24 PM

Capitalism doesn't work because people like to own everything.

Mindfulness 04-08-2017 06:24 PM

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The Batlord 04-08-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1821308)
Capitalism doesn't work because people like to own everything.

But since people like to own everything the only thing that can possibly work must integrate capitalism in some way. Or else **** you - the people probably

elphenor 04-08-2017 06:29 PM

important to point out Marxism made a distinction between personal property and the means of production but so off topic now I should just have my own Ask a Communist thread

It's not that no one is entitled to the shirt on their back it's that the false meritocracy shouldn't be determining who gets to own a shirt

Neapolitan 04-08-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1821304)
"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff."

― Frank Zappa

Zappa really said that? The man must have been a genius.

The Batlord 04-08-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1821313)
important to point out Marxism made a distinction between personal property and the means of production but so off topic now I should just have my own Ask a Communist thread

It's not that no one is entitled to the shirt on their back it's that the false meritocracy shouldn't be determining who gets to own a shirt

I kind of don't see a distinction in a real world sense since there will always be someone leading the proles to build something, and that person will always see the product being more his/hers than theirs. So any means of production will always be to some extent personal property unless the leader/leaders is not sufficiently competent enough to quell the rabble and take what he/she sees as rightfully theirs.

I mean, stuff like bridges and roads that don't directly produce revenue can be "public", but factories? The leaders will never let the followers have them without a fight.


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